OUInsider - Owen Field

http://oklahoma.247sports.com/Board/86/Weekend-Wrap-Up-Vol-9-25-6-22-12-Newcomers-Excite-OU-Coaches-10301185/1

Two things:

It's too early to tell.
OU always does well.

Foxnewsdude,
Your question is stupid because its so obviously below the level of the board. Its like asking a highschooler to answer "what is 5 plus 4". Plus you come across as if you are doing us a favor with your little "game". This whole board is filled with high-level speculation so its a bit insulting for you to come on here and try to "start" some thread that is basically what the entire board is already about. Stick to the sports fans who have a lower level of interest with your silly propositions.

Fox,
Wow, sounds like I struck a nerve! It's not my fault your post is so stupid and low level. From the responses, apparently I'm not the only one who feels that way either.

...Studies have shown that homophobes are often "closeted" themselves...

Have a good weekend.

Male under the age of 30 (used to be 25 but Weeden broke the glass ceiling for senior citizen college football players) with two or more years of playing organized sport.

Scout List

Rk. School Commits Conf. Points Avg.
1 Michigan 22 Big Ten 4206 191
2 Texas A&M 21 SEC 3199 152
3 Texas 15 Big 12 2766 184
4 Notre Dame 14 Indep 2708 193
5 Alabama 18 SEC 2609 145
6 Florida 18 SEC 2596 144
7 USC 10 Pac-12 2556 256
8 Georgia 19 SEC 2554 134
9 Ohio State 12 Big Ten 2305 192
10 Auburn 13 SEC 1848 142
12 Oklahoma 11 Big 12 1742 158

Based on total points calculated for number of stars. Who knows how the points are allocated. USC has more 5 and 4 star commitments than anyone but the always have the next Paris Hilton in line to help recruit. Very glamorous to be a USC football player in Hollywood.

OU has several 4 star player and 3 star players and not a 5 star yet, depending on the recruiting service. Why people worry about this so much really does a allude me but hey I'm a player too but I put little stock in the recruiting serivces because Boise and TCU and other schools that almost never sniff a 5 star player do OK. OU has had several busts with 5 star guys.

Based on this though and the average number of stars and what ever number the deviners of this list came up with up, OU is number 7 but with only 11 commits the lowest on the list with the exception of USC at 10 (how do they do it? See Hollywood comment above). It would seem, that at the end of recruiting season next Feb. A full 8 months away, if OU just continues on the current track, they'll end up with a top 10 class and I submit based on the current snapshot that there won't be a fly's eyelash between any of the top ten.

What does all this mean right now? NOTHING!

This is where the worriers go to sleep. Go to the OU Home page and scroll down and you will see the 247 Current List by rank. OU is 18 (behind such notables as Baylor, A&M and Vanderbilt (OU is sucking now))-If you only look at the total points. However, if you look at the devined average, OU is number 8 - not so awful a vacuum now, huh?

Now if you took the time to take the total points in the Insider List and divided by the number of players committed OU is number 2 behind USC. Trust me or not. Are you worriers asleep yet? If not, what does it all mean right now? Nothing unless you happen to be the 16 schools behind USC and OU. And, I'll say this again. At this point, there isn't an eyelash difference right now and it should hold through the recruiting year but OU right now is in great shape. After USC, OU has the fewest commits but as they pile up, OU should finish in the top 5 or so like almost all years.

Hope you had a good nap. I did!

And after sleeping on it, I came up with this question. Each rating service has a limited number of 5 star, 4 star and 3 star players. So, does that mean the last 5 star player is significantly better than the 1st star player? Or, is the mid pack 5 star that much better than a mid pack 4 star or 4 to 3 star for that matter? Just by looking at the stars of the players on any of the lists, Scouts's, ESPN, Insider's, any of them without knowing where the player falls within his respective "star" category you really can't make much of a judgement, For instance is the top 5 star that much better than the bottom 5 star? That's what's wrong with all of these rating systems, what happens at the borders between the stars?

For RIVALS: A five-star prospect is considered to be one of the nation's top 25-30 players, four star is a top 250-300 or so player, three-stars is a top 750 level player, two stars means the player is a mid-major prospect and one star means the player is not ranked.

See the point! The sample is so small at the top compared to the bottom it's almost meaningless. And, if the player is a four star and he commits to Texas, USC or ND, he's very likely to be moved from 4 to 5 or 3 to 4.

Would you rather have the top 3 star at position 301 or the one at 750? Think there is a difference? I do. And yet they both have 3 stars!

Now I am officially bored.

The question I think is how Bob responds to the learning he had over the last year. And clearly there were issues with some "star" guys. It doesn't matter how many stars a guy, or program has, if they are trouble in locker room, on the field, or off the field. I think Bob(and I know Mike and Tim feel this) want kids who will work extremely hard grow as men and football players. So, you may see more "three stars" on this team than in the past-but guys who will put the work in and off the field. Hopefully, lesson learned.

I do think that Mike, Tim and Shipp will bring in some JUCO's as well. There are still some "holes" in this team, and depending on the performance in August you may see Mike go after at least 1 JUCO LB, I JUCO safety, and certainly Shipp is planning to as well at DT. Depends on who they can get. Depth is the issue-but there is no panic.I also think that OU may also bring in a JUCO TE and 1 JUCO OL as well, depending on August practices and early season performances.

Canyoneer

Don't forget TCU. A Big XII member, right smack in the middle of what may be OU's most important recruiting pool... the DFW metroplex.

Peace, I understand what you are saying, and partially sympathize with you. However, the quality of the individual is more important than where the individual is from.

Some of our recent problems are from Texas. You mentioned Bomar. He is from Texas.

It seems to me that our coaches are only cherry-picking jucos, depending on what our needs are. Generally, it is better to bring in a juco who is not an academic risk and who can play spring ball. Last year we recruited some jucos who are academic risks, but that was because of an urgent and immediate need. We were extremely fortunate to get the quality players that we got at the last minute (if they qualify). We don't know whether they are quality individuals yet, but they will learn fast that they must toe the line or Bob will send them packing.

As for recruiting nationally, it is a big risk. We will lose most of the national players that we recruit, but as OUI keeps reminding us, if we can just get one of every 15, we will be doing well.

However, you may have noticed that we seem more intent on recruiting Oklahoma kids this year. An advantage in recruiting these kids is that we have a better understanding of what kind of people they are, as opposed to a kid from Florida or California.

And if you think that Oklahoma does not produce good quality players, maybe you should take a tour of Heisman Park. We have statues of some pretty good players out there. And, by the way, some of those were three-star players. I believe, if my memory serves me correctly, that we had a pretty good three-star receiver from the home state playing for the Sooners last year. (I know that this would set a precedent, but I would like to see a statue of Ryan Broyles somewhere near the stadium, if not in Heisman Park.)

I like the home recruiting, the national recruiting, and the juco recruiting changes this year. I believe that we will see dividends from it, if we avoid recruiting too many players who are academic risks. But I'm sure that the coaches know what they are doing.

Genius, your reply is rude and hinders future contributions to this board. Content is lacking already. Opening your resonate by saying " your post is "your post is stupid" really pulls down the overall enjoyment of this board.