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Thoughts on a quality win, some upsets, and a deeply sad loss

  • I want to first offer my sincerest condolances to the the family of the late Bob Barry Sr. His passing is a dark moment for all of the Sooner Nation.

    As is the norm, I'll re-visit the other action from this week and then dive into OU/KSU. I'll follow that up with a touch of BCS talk. Away we go...

    1. It was nice to see Cristobal and Co. get back on the winning track. It's hard to win at FIU. He is a coach I expect to see at a more prominant program within 3-4 years.

    2. Despite being 4-4 and despite getting run over by Rutgers, Pitt actually controls its own destiny in the Big Least. What a mess that conference is. I think that the mid-major schools rumored to be getting invites should avoid that league like the plague.

    3. I know that Rice is not a good team, but NINE TD passes is just stupid. At what point do you just start dropping 9? Seriously.

    4. Is there a more inconsistent team in the FBS than Miami? They lost to Maryland (currently 2-6), then beat Ohio State (currently 5-3), then played close games with quality teams in losses to VaTech and KSU, then dominated GaTech (currently 7-2), and finally turned around and lost at home to Virginia. Al Golden must be wearing a wig by now to hide the fact that he's pulled out all of his hair.

    5. On a related note, did anyone else notice how sparse the crowd was for the Miami/UVA game? Really? I know they don't sell out, but I was shocked.

    6. A young but talented TCU team looks like it is starting to get things together. They are 6-2 now and looked pretty good in their win over BYU where they led 35-10 at one point, especially in ST play and in the turnover margin (3-0). They have one more game (against Wyoming) to work out some more kinks before they travel to Boise. TCU looks like the only team left on Boise's schedule that has a real chance to pull off the upset.

    7. FSU is starting to get it together again now that they have most of their starters back. In the event that Boise and Stanford do get upset, a strong finish by FSU could help OU.

    8. Kevin Wilson's crew is finally showing signs of life on offense, but their defense is still awful. It does appear that Gunner Kiel could only stomach so many beatdowns before a longer drive started to look less and less daunting. There is a beer goggle joke in there somewhere, but I just can't put my finger on it....

    9. I still think Louisville makes more sense as the newest Big 12 team than WVU. That said, they won again to get to 4-4 and still have to play Pitt and WVU, so they are still somewhat of a player in the Big Least. I see UL as a program with a lot of potential for a good coach. Perhaps Charlie Strong is that guy.

    10. Michigan won again to stretch their record to 7-1. If Michigan can beat Nebraska on 11/19 it is quite IMpossible that UM, MSU, and NU could all be 11-1 (7-1) in a perfect 3-way tie like we saw with OU/UT/TT in 2008. I had to go back and fix this since I forgot about Wisconsin's win over Nebraska. Thanks Nebraska.

    11. Speaking of NU and MSU. That's the first of the upsets from last week, at least in my opinion. After MSU handled Wisconsin in such an emotional game though, it cannot be too much of a surprise that they struggled the following week. Those are some tough back-to-back games to manage. MSU had to get back in gear after a seriously emotional win and then hit the road, whereas NU was at home a week after a cakewalk beatdown of lowly Minnesota (more on them later).

    12. TA&M blew another double-digit halftime lead. There you have upset #2. They really seem to want to hold that title of worst second half team. If they had managed to win those games over Arkansas, OSU, and Missouri, they'd be at WORST #3 right now instead of OSU. As much as our loss to TT stung, those three losses, especially taken together, must sting infinitely worse.

    13. Speaking of Arkansas, that's about as close to losing as a team can get without actually losing. That 94 yard scoop and score was painful to watch. Vandy was soooo close to that marquee win that they could probably taste it. Ironically, that's likely one of the reasons that it managed to slip away.

    14. VaTech looked very vulnerable against lowly Duke. It was not a good week for the ACC.

    15. Wazzou actually managed to hang with Oregon somewhat for a good part of their game. That would have been unimaginable 2 or 3 years ago. That said, WSU still has a ways to go before they are a player in the Pac-12 conference championship picture.

    16. It can be well argued that Mark Richt is no longer on the hot seat. This has been a nearly miraculous season for UGA after their rough 0-2 start. If South Carolina loses to Arkansas this coming week, UGA suddenly controls its own destiny for getting to be the team that loses in the SEC CCG. I didn't think they had a prayer when they were 0-2.

    17. It appears that Navy's ability to beat ND is on hiatus. I enjoyed seeing Navy beat them a few times recently, and I'm glad I was able to see it, because it may not happen again for a while. That said, ND has barely a prayer of going to a BCS game, even if they somehow manage to beat Stanford. With 1 of the 10 spots guarenteed to a mid-major (for all practical purposes), 9-3 isn't going to get it done.

    18. It was a good week for Coach Kill at Minnesota. He got a nice contract extension and then his first big win. On the flip side, Kirk Ferentz's seat just started getting warmer. This game goes on the upset list even though Iowa was not ranked.

    19. I really thought that Rutgers might hang on to beat WVU, but instead WVU joined the comeback victory train. That would have put Rutgers in a good position in the Big Least. Seeing Eric LeGrand lead the team onto the field was really cool. Rutgers may not win the conference, but in looking at their remaining schedule, 7 wins and a bowl game is very likely. 8 wins is not at all out of the question either. I think that's good personally.

    20. Someone needs to check and see if the small contingent of Baylor fans in Stillwater are still outside the stadium awaiting the Baylor team buses since Baylor has apparently not yet shown up....

    21. I'm still not sure what to make of OSU's defense. Plenty of people are trying to paint their defense as better than it appears on paper due to the turnovers and garbage time points allowed. The turnover numbers are certainly impressive, but what happens if they play a team that protects the football?

    22. It was ugly and cold, but PSU managed to win again. Their offense is nothing to brag about, but their defense is really good. I like how they found a way to get it done in the last quarter. That speaks of good leadership and character to keep battling.

    23. Western Kentucky is a front runner in the Sun Belt. Now, that's not normally considered much of an accomplishment, but they've only been an FBS team for 2 or 3 seasons. Hell, let's add WKU to the Big 12. That sure would cause a stir lol.....

    24. ASU looks like a lock to go to the first Pac-12 CCG. That's not even due to USC being ineligible since ASU handed USC a beatdown earlier this season.

    25. In case you forgot, Colorado still sucks.

    26. Ole Miss plays its next game at Kentucky. After that, their remaining two SEC games are Miss. State and LSU. Look for them to go winless in the SEC this year. Their next SEC win will be under a new coach next year. I like UK to pull the upset at home. Of course, we have all seen what happens when I predict a team to go winless the rest of the way. Sorry Kentucky.....

    27. I find it perplexing that Turner Gill was able to craft a winning program at Buffalo but can't make any progress at Kansas. Mangino did not leave him that empty of a cupboard. Their showing at Texass was just inexcusable. Good thing for them that nobody saw it.

    28. Utah finally found a Pac-12 team that it could beat. It looks like Oregon State and Colorado will have to duke it out for the fine distinction of being the worst team in their conference. I think Colorado will get the nod.

    29. Does anyone disagree that Texas Tech was way too hung over for way too long after their win in Norman? It appears that their buses got lost on the way to the stadium just like the Baylor team buses did. They looked like they were literally up all night partying the night before the game. It reminded me of that movie Varsity Blues. That game also has a seat on this week's upset victory train. All Aboard!

    30. Despite booting his QB and losing his star RB, the Ol' Ball Coach is 7-1 and has the inside track to lose the SEC CCG after squeaking by Tennessee (currently 0-5 in the SEC). I don't like their chances of taking down Arkansas though.

    31. Stanford should have lost that game. I'm somehow even less of a fan of Kiffin than I was. I didn't think that was possible.

    32. It's hard to explain the Clemson loss to GaTech. GaTech was really struggling the past few weeks, but was still 7-2. It's not like they were sneaking up on anyone. I guess it was just Clemson being Clemson. That freshman receiver at Clemson, Sammy Watkins, is stupid good though.

    33. Wisconsin may be the only team in I've ever seen that I think needs to play MORE prevent defense. Seriously.

    34. It appears that the euphoria of rallying around the new coach has worn off at Arizona. They are what their record says they are.

    Okay, let's talk some OU/KSU beatdown.

    1. This game reminded me of the Kansas game in that we sort of stumbled around a bit in the first half, and then came out in the second half and made it clear to the opponent that they were done.

    2. One of the most impressive things about this year's OU team, and this dates back to last year's Bedlam game, is that OU is a really good second half team. Even in our only loss we made a 17 point halftime deficit into a 3 point loss.

    3. I thought Landry Jones played better this week than last week (obviously), especially considering the wind. One thing I noticed though, was that he and Stills' timing was off. Jones was just late and off target on his deep throws to Stills several times before Stills finally pulled one down in the third quarter.

    4. It seems that mobile QBs still give OU fits (like they do to a lot of teams). I'm glad that OSU does not have a mobile QB. However, if I'm Monken, I throw a few draw plays or designed QB runs at OU that I saved just for Bedlam.

    5. We had good success running the ball against a stout run defense. That's a good sign, especially since we were on the road. That said, for Finch to be averaging 8 yards per carry and yet only have 8 carries boggles the mind. I am well aware that he is not a 20+ carry per game type of back, but 8 is just way too low. There's no reason he should have less than 15 carries on top of his receptions.

    6. On a related note, Millard's 1 carry was a pretty solid showing of why he should have more than 1 carry.

    7. I really liked the new Blake Bell package the first time we put it out there. The next two times, not so much. I love the potential. Hopefully the kinks will get worked out in practice in the coming weeks. I also think that the new Blake Bell package will make the QB battle that may be happening this offseason more interesting since Bell is getting the in-game experience that, before last Saturday, was Drew Allen's big advantage.

    8. We definately throw the ball downfield more than we did last year. I really like that. Despite that, LJ still has a higher completion % and higher YPA than last year. Those numbers are good signs of growth for a QB. He still needs to cut down on the INTs though. He has thrown 9 picks. That's a bit on the high side.

    9. I was crushed when I saw the replay of Whaley's injury on the first play. I didn't need to hear the official report to know what it was going to say. I hate it for the kid and wish him a full recovery. I hope we see him get some playing time next season. He'll have a tough fight on his hands to win some meaningful playing time next year.

    10. It was nice to see our defense finally force a turnover. The fumble recovery by R.Lewis was our first turnover since the RRS. Still though, we have lost the turnover battle in three straight games. That's not a good recipe for success.

    11. I was still really happy with the defense overall though. KSU was well below its season averages for rushing yards, points, and especially passing yards. KSU basically had three effective possessions that were helped by some sloppy play by our defense, and then that was it. Having our starters back certainly helped.

    12. Did we really make a 54 yard FG? Really?

    13. What was the deal with our fist two kickoffs being so short? Were we trying to cope with the wind on those or something? It was just wierd.

    14. One thing I noticed this week, that I also saw last week, is that we changed our punt return scheme. Now Broyles has a blocker placed about 15 yards in front of him to pick up the first guy running free down the field. Suddenly, Broyles is seeing more running room. It's about time they made that adjustment.

    15. The catches by Jaz Reynolds were amazing.

    16. Some of his attempts at blocking were not so amazing.

    17. I liked seeing D.Miller catch a few passes. He's been here a long time and has never given up, so I think he deserves some time in the spotlight. Also, every time he makes a catch in a real game he gets better, and we need the depth.

    18. What happened to Trey Franks? I know that Reynolds has been playing well, but Franks was playing well early on also. I'm surprised he has disappeared. It appears he is now behind D.Miller on the depth chart.

    19. We had 7 sacks. That's awfully good. I'm quite anxious to see how our pass rush does against OSU on 12/3. That will be a huge factor in the game.

    20. Our TEs and FB had a combined 5 receptions. That, to me, is an improvement, but still not enough. I think forcing teams to better respect our TE passing game will help open up the run game.

    21. We do not run nearly as many plays per game as we did last year. I'm still not sure if that's good or bad.

    22. Drew Allen is now 18/30 in his career throwing the ball. Blake Bell is now 1/2 in his career throwing the ball. In the event LJ leaves after this year, those numbers need to go up dramatically.

    23. OU has now won 5 straight true road games, 7 straight games outside of the state of Oklahoma, and 5 straight games against ranked teams (all away from Norman).

    24. I'm anxious to see which OU team shows up on Saturday to give A&M its sendoff. I'll be in the stands to find out.

    Alrighty, a few thoughts on the BCS and I'm done.

    1. We need Stanford to lose. Duh.

    2. We need Boise to lose also IMO. I think they've built up enough credibility over the past three seasons and won enough marquee games that they'll get the nod over a 1-loss team.

    3. One big problem we may face is the boost that Oregon would get if it beats Stanford. We'll get a big boost if we beat OSU as well, so it may not be a problem, but Oregon's only loss is to LSU in Dallas. That means they don't have the embarrasing loss at home that we have, and they don't have a Wisconsin-esque non-conference schedule either.

    4. If LSU beats Bama, then Oregon is no longer a worry since nobody will want to see the rematch. That sort of sucks for OU because an LSU win over Bama likely means LSU playing a home game for the NCG. Yuck.

    5. If Boise gets into the NCG I'll be rooting for them with every ounce of strength I can muster. Even the mighty SEC would not be able to live down losing to Boise State in the NCG.

    Boomer Sooner

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Matteon on 11/2/2011 at 9:07 AM

    Matteon

  • It's about time Matteon, j/k biggrin

    Thanks, good read as usual

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    greensooner

  • greensooner said...

    It's about time Matteon, j/k

    Thanks, good read as usual

    Good things come to those who wait....biggrin

    Matteon

  • Man, the second half of the OU/ATM game should be really sick! lol

    Glad to see you are coming around to the possibility of OU getting to the NC game!

    Oregon is still ahead of OU in the polls. The computers are holding them back, which is a surprise to me. If they beat stanford their computer numbers might go up enough, I'm not sure. We are quite a bit ahead of them now.

    I wouldn't worry about BSU, voters are already talking them down. I think the win vs OU didn't help them as much as BSU fans want to believe. Sure, they won, but they showed that they weren't in the same league of talent that OU was. They needed a ridiculous amount of tricks and an OU team that didn't even want to play the game until the 4th quarter in order to win by a hair's breath in OT.

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    Things are rarely perfect or totally bad. Reality=closer to the middle. Never as bad as it seems, never as good as it seems.

    hoodleehoo

  • Excellent. I set my alarm so I could wake up early and read it.

    schooner9

  • Well done Matteon. Your point on kickoffs is well taken - I thought we were kicking short (and into the wind) to avoid putting the ball in Lockett's hands, but those moves clearly didn't pay off. Just kick it deep and hope that Ronnell Lewis makes the tackle.

    Stuck in Mexas


  • 3. I know that Rice is not a good team, but NINE TD passes is just stupid. At what point do you just start dropping 9? Seriously.

    6. A young but talented TCU team looks like it is starting to get things together. They are 6-2 now and looked pretty good in their win over BYU where they led 35-10 at one point, especially in ST play and in the turnover margin (3-0). They have one more game (against Wyoming) to work out some more kinks before they travel to Boise. TCU looks like the only team left on Boise's schedule that has a real chance to pull off the upset.
    .

    10. Michigan won again to stretch their record to 7-1. If Michigan can beat Nebraska on 11/19 it is quite possible that UM, MSU, and NU could all be 11-1 (7-1) in a perfect 3-way tie like we saw with OU/UT/TT in 2008.

    17. It appears that Navy's ability to beat ND is on hiatus. I enjoyed seeing Navy beat them a few times recently, and I'm glad I was able to see it, because it may not happen again for a while. That said, ND has barely a prayer of going to a BCS game, even if they somehow manage to beat Stanford. With 1 of the 10 spots guarenteed to a mid-major (for all practical purposes), 9-3 isn't going to get it done.

    3. Case Keenum, EA Sports just called, they want their game back...

    6. Yea and if the Mountain West hadn't hadn't been giving lessons on first class douchebaggery, that game SHOULD have been in Ft Worth, NOT in Boise. Their reasons for changing that game's location were beyond laughable.

    10. I think you are wrong here. Since Wisconsin blew Nebraska out of Camp Randall, another Nebraska loss would put them at 2 losses (both in conference) if Michigan were to beat them.

    17. Navy is riddled with injuries, They will be lucky to beat Army this year. Notre Dame is just not a good team again, if they get to a bcs bowl, they will be in for yet another beat down.

    MDS00NER

  • Matteon said...

    24. I'm anxious to see which OU team shows up on Saturday to give A&M its sendoff. I'll be in the stands to find out.

    5. If Boise gets into the NCG I'll be rooting for them with every ounce of strength I can muster. Even the mighty SEC would not be able to live down losing to Boise State in the NCG.

    24. I am looking forward to it as well, my father and I are going to be in attendance for our first game in Norman since 1988, he is driving his trailer in from Mississippi and I am flying in from Maryland. We have already reserved a spot in the RV Lot over by LNC. I am really glad its a day game, cant wait to see how much things have changed.

    5. This is tough for me and pops, He lives in "Tiger country"/SEC I spent my youth in Southern Louisiana, so though while I respect LSU, my life sucks when they win.... So I hate the idea of another SEC team getting a "free pass" in the NCG. But on the other hand I want Boise to get smoked so badly that they never regain any BCS credibility. If they pull off the upset, they will forever have the credibility of being able to play one decent team and 11 cupcakes go undefeated and play in the NCG. As much as I hate to say it... in this case... Geaux Tigers!!

    MDS00NER

  • Matteon said...

    3. I thought Landry Jones played better this week than last week (obviously), especially considering the wind. One thing I noticed though, was that he and Stills' timing was off. Jones was just late and off target on his deep throws to Stills several times before Stills finally pulled one down in the third quarter.

    Is it just me, or does Stills appear to give up on a lot of routes?

    OU_ATL

  • Thanks for doing these, Matteon. Count me among those that looks forward to each week's epistle.

    27. Turner Gill gets way too much credit for his job at Buffalo. He had one winning season there (2008, 8-6), but instead of building on it, he regressed. Gill's 2009 Buffalo team stumbled to a 5-7 record, including an ugly 3-5 mark in the wretched MAC. Gill was fortunate to parlay such dubious success into a BCS-AQ job. To say he built a "winning program" is very generous.

    13. Like Stuck, I thought we were avoiding Lockett. Probably a combination of fearing him and fearing the wind. I wasn't pleased with our solution. Conceding a 40-yard line start to each drive is unacceptable. Many have forgotten, but playing scared of the return man and kicking the ball out of bounds was a key contributor to our Fiesta Bowl loss to Boise. Our kick coverage may not be perfect, but if we kick it deep, we'll keep the team from crossing the 40-yard line 9 times out of 10. Boot it as far as you can and trust your coverage. We eventually came around against KSU in this regard, and it paid dividends.

    SlicedBread

  • Rockford's and Matteon's posts are worth the price of admission. Thanks guys.
    Another sad loss to remember is Tatura's. Prayers for him/his family and the Bob Barry family.

    SunBeam

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  • hoodleehoo said...

    Glad to see you are coming around to the possibility of OU getting to the NC game!

    The losses by Clemson and Wisconsin helped us a bit, but I still see our chances as really really small.

    Matteon

  • MDS00NER said...

    6. Yea and if the Mountain West hadn't hadn't been giving lessons on first class douchebaggery, that game SHOULD have been in Ft Worth, NOT in Boise. Their reasons for changing that game's location were beyond laughable.

    10. I think you are wrong here. Since Wisconsin blew Nebraska out of Camp Randall, another Nebraska loss would put them at 2 losses (both in conference) if Michigan were to beat them.

    I agree about the loaction of BSU/TCU. BSU already has an easy enough path to the post season. They didn't need that extra bone thrown their way.

    I double checked, and yes, I forgot about NU losing to Wisconsin. It was late and I was a tad fatigued lol. I'll correct it. Thanks for pointing it out.

    Matteon

  • OU_ATL said...

    Is it just me, or does Stills appear to give up on a lot of routes?

    The only time I've noticed that was in a game previous to OU/KSU where LJ threw behind Stills for an INT and Stills made no effort to go up and play some defense. Outside of that I can't think of any other instances where I thoguht Stills gave up on a route, but at the same time I don't usually focus on what the receivers not getting thrown to are doing unless they're blocking. Perhaps someone else who has paid more attention to that sort of thing can chime in here.

    To Stills' credit though, when Millard broke the long TD run and Broyles was down there blocking, Stills was the second guy down there after racing from the far side of the field. Stills definately played through the whistle on THAT play.

    This post was edited by Matteon on 11/2/2011 at 9:15 AM

    Matteon

  • SunBeam said...

    Rockford's and Matteon's posts are worth the price of admission. Thanks guys.

    This^

    SoonerinTopeka

  • Great post! Always love to read your thoughts on everything that is college football.

    goldsooner

  • SlicedBread said...

    Thanks for doing these, Matteon. Count me among those that looks forward to each week's epistle.

    27. Turner Gill gets way too much credit for his job at Buffalo. He had one winning season there (2008, 8-6), but instead of building on it, he regressed. Gill's 2009 Buffalo team stumbled to a 5-7 record, including an ugly 3-5 mark in the wretched MAC. Gill was fortunate to parlay such dubious success into a BCS-AQ job. To say he built a "winning program" is very generous.

    I remember it as that 2008 Buffalo team being heavy with seniors, with the following year's team being rather young and less experienced. I may very well be mis remembering though. I don't exactly follow Buffalo all that closely. I'm not sure he gets too much credit though, even if it was just 1 decent season. It is rediculously hard to win at Buffalo.

    Matteon

  • OU_ATL said...

    Is it just me, or does Stills appear to give up on a lot of routes?

    totally agree. i noticed it multiple times at the fsu game, and the texas game. he needs to learn to play defender when an uncatchable ball is in the air. he's still a total badass, but he absolutely does slow and tap out a beat or two too early at times.

    GeorgiaCrimson

  • I respectfully disagree about the kickoff strategy. I trust our defense a lot more against a one-dimensional offense than I trust our kickoff coverage. Recognize your weaknesses and gameplan to cover them up. Also, the first kick would have worked better if the bounce hadn't taken such a sharp angle. 2 guys almost touched it and the ball would have been around the 30 yard line. Having them start at the 40 isn't optimal, but it's better than giving up a TD against a hot returner on a team that would otherwise have trouble scoring at all. Don't need to give the home team any extra momentum.

    I equate the kickoff strategy to the use of Blake Bell in short yardage. We have had trouble in both areas before, so we were looking at different ways to attack those problems. I appreciate that we are trying to do something innovative instead of trying to beat our heads into a wall. The best solution would obviously be to be able to effectively run the ball in short yardage situations and to be able to cover kickoffs well, but even with extra focus for a few years now on those problem areas, we've only gotten so much better. Glad to see us try a few different tactics, even with the growing pains that might be associated.

    NateM67

  • NateM67 said...

    I respectfully disagree about the kickoff strategy. I trust our defense a lot more against a one-dimensional offense than I trust our kickoff coverage. Recognize your weaknesses and gameplan to cover them up. Also, the first kick would have worked better if the bounce hadn't taken such a sharp angle. 2 guys almost touched it and the ball would have been around the 30 yard line. Having them start at the 40 isn't optimal, but it's better than giving up a TD against a hot returner on a team that would otherwise have trouble scoring at all. Don't need to give the home team any extra momentum.

    I equate the kickoff strategy to the use of Blake Bell in short yardage. We have had trouble in both areas before, so we were looking at different ways to attack those problems. I appreciate that we are trying to do something innovative instead of trying to beat our heads into a wall. The best solution would obviously be to be able to effectively run the ball in short yardage situations and to be able to cover kickoffs well, but even with extra focus for a few years now on those problem areas, we've only gotten so much better. Glad to see us try a few different tactics, even with the growing pains that might be associated.

    I think that's exactly what happened.

    Stuff that had been considered before last Saturday was implemented. And KState was and is a great kickoff return team. Given OU'r problems, ensuring that their offense needed to try to beat us, rather than their special teams was a good idea.

    I also saw that some non starters who hadn't been on special teams were getting reps in place of defensive starters, who weren't sitting al ST play out, but were getting some rest.

    It seemed to work. OUr second half defensive effort was the best of the season.

    Plainosooner

  • NateM67 said...

    I respectfully disagree about the kickoff strategy. I trust our defense a lot more against a one-dimensional offense than I trust our kickoff coverage. Recognize your weaknesses and gameplan to cover them up. Also, the first kick would have worked better if the bounce hadn't taken such a sharp angle. 2 guys almost touched it and the ball would have been around the 30 yard line. Having them start at the 40 isn't optimal, but it's better than giving up a TD against a hot returner on a team that would otherwise have trouble scoring at all. Don't need to give the home team any extra momentum.

    I equate the kickoff strategy to the use of Blake Bell in short yardage. We have had trouble in both areas before, so we were looking at different ways to attack those problems. I appreciate that we are trying to do something innovative instead of trying to beat our heads into a wall. The best solution would obviously be to be able to effectively run the ball in short yardage situations and to be able to cover kickoffs well, but even with extra focus for a few years now on those problem areas, we've only gotten so much better. Glad to see us try a few different tactics, even with the growing pains that might be associated.

    I'd have to disagree. Kicking the ball out of bounds and giving them the ball at the 40 gives them momentum, as does giving up a fairly long return on a short kick. I don't think it worked particularly well. We had no trouble with KO returns through our first five games. The problems resurfaced against Texass. Instead of over thinking things, I'd rather see us just go back to doing what we did in games 1-5.

    Matteon

  • Yeah, the strategy worked so poorly that we only won by what? 41?

    Plainosooner

  • I agree that the short kicks didn't work as well as OU intended them to. The ball took a sharp bounce to head out of bounds, and the coverage on the short return that stayed in bounds was poor. I think they were hoping to strand them around the 25-30.

    I expect we won't see the short kick much again the rest of the year. I think it was a one day thing based on the wind and the fact that their returner was hot. Then the execution didn't go as planned so the idea probably gets scrapped altogether. But I still appreciate our coaches trying something different.

    NateM67

  • Plainosooner said...

    Yeah, the strategy worked so poorly that we only won by what? 41?

    I'm not sure that the final score had much to do with our KO strategy on those short kicks.

    Matteon