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Thoughts from the WRONG side of the Red River

  • I always like to keep folks informed with the goings on down here on the "dark side". (that will change before I die to be sure). Anyway here are some random thoughts and rumblings.

    1) RG3 at Baylor is getting a lot of love for the Heismann and his stats are outstanding. I think a lot depends on what he does on his TV games like this week. Baylor still doesn't play very good defense but if the Bears continue to win-he is legit.

    2) A$M again pulls a choke job. Give credit to OSU for the comeback at Kyle Field. (why is it we seem to always play them at night down there? Irrelevant now since they are leaving). I didn't think the team was Top 10 to begin with but we'll know more after their game with the Razorbacks.

    3) T. Tech-not a good team yet but are improving. Still glad we have them at Norman.

    4) TCU-Good for their competition but not as good as they have been. They will be super tough next year in FW.

    5) UT-The "best" for last. They really think they turned a corner a couple of weeks ago with their big win over a bad UCLA team. For them to score 49 points against anyone is quite a feat. They will only get better especially on offense. Defensively they are solid and that will keep them in all their games. But you don't often win with inexperienced QB's although the Longhorn faithful are "confident" that little McCoy will end up as good as his brother. Shipley? Probably better than his brother if they get him the ball. Malcolm Brown is as good as advertised. They finally have some weapons on offense. How they play on the road (Missouri for instance) will determine their fate. I said before the season they would win 8-10 games and I still stand by that. Still have some weak sisters in the Big 12. (or the Nothing Nine or whatever they are called now).

    Conference Realignment-There now should be no question that UT and Deloss Dodds in particular have been basically running this conference since it was formed. They have the largest school, the most money and the state of Texas has four teams in the league. (for now). Nebraska had enough and left. Colorado always felt uncomfortable and is probably a better fit for the Pac 12. A$M leaving was a slap at Texas and in my opinion-they over reacted and will be a mid-level SEC team at best. But there should be some good games at Kyle Field. (Alabama, LSU, etc.). The discouraging part is that now the SEC has a very strong foot into the state of Texas for recruiting purposes. We'll have to see how that plays out.

    The "fascination" with OU. You would be amazed at how closely a lot of the UT guys I work with concern themselves with OU. They normally tell me about a problem recruit or an injury or some other goings on with the Sooners before I know. (they subscribe to Orangebloods). I think they think of OU "infringing" on their entitlement to be the King of the Big 12. They constantly get the best players out of Texas and with a lot of recruiting services down here-they buy into the hype. One thing I've noticed is that while Texas gets a lot of great players (several of which OU tried to recruit) they all seem to play as freshmen (recruiting promises?) and they make an impact in some cases but they never seem to get any better. Kudos to the OU staff. As much as we fuss about some of the things they do-you can't argue with success and we've had guys who were 3 star recruits turn into stars and others who made little or no contribution have the "light come on" near the end and be major contributors. You seldom see that at Texas.

    SKIPinKELLER ●

  • Loved the information thank you for sharing. My thoughts on texas ... we win by 14/ little brother wins by a touchdown and Mizzou wins in Columbia. Oh and a&m wins at Kyle ..

    Confidence is preparation. Everything else is beyond our control.

    TucsonSooner ●

  • good analysis...I don't think you are giving Texass enough credit though. I do think the players develop at Texas and the fact they have some top tier NFL talent, much more than OU, supports that. However, while in college, Stoops gets his team to often outperform Texas because - simply - he is better. :-)

    albsooner

  • Much more? Jamal Brown, Chris Chester, Mark Clayton, Curtis Lofton, Sam Bradford, Adrian Peterson, Tommy Harris (Picked up by SD), Demarco Murray, really I don't have time or space to name EVERY OU player who's at least on an NFL practice squad....Texas has their share but not THAT many more than us. Juaquin Iglesias, Brody Eldridge, Trent Williams, Jon Cooper, CJ AhYou, Remi Ayodele, on and on and on....

    hooknladder

  • I would argue that most 1st rounders are combine freaks - they have all the athletic ability the NFL covets in their players. I'm not surprised that they have more corners and DEs picked highly than OU. However, Brown's most prized recruits are the biggest head cases in the NFL...

    Hback73317

  • However, Brown's most prized recruits are the biggest head cases in the NFL...

    You hit a home run with that one. Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, Roy Williams, Vince Young, etc., etc. I would say that McCoy and Shipley were the exceptions to the rule but they weren't "can't miss" first rounders either.

    This post was edited by docjb on 9/29/2011 at 7:55 PM

    docjb

  • Don't forget Quentin Jammer and Sergio Kindle as other top round head cases. Not that OU hasn't had a few guys that were total busts. Not head cases, and not all in the first round, but Dan Cody, Teddy Lehman, Mark Bradley, Malcolm Kelly, Rufus, Rocky Calmus, Juaquin Iglesias just to name a few.

    ChitownSooner

  • Draw your own conclusion.

    Former OU player in the NFL- 24 Players

    Oklahoma
    PLAYER TEAM POSITION
    C.J. Ah You St. Louis Rams Defensive End
    Remi Ayodele Minnesota Vikings Defensive Tackle
    Sam Bradford St. Louis Rams Quarterback
    Jammal Brown Washington Redskins Offensive Tackle
    Quinton Carter Denver Broncos Safety
    Chris Chester Washington Redskins Guard
    Keenan Clayton Philadelphia Eagles Linebacker
    Mark Clayton St. Louis Rams Wide Receiver
    Brody Eldridge Indianapolis Colts Tight End
    Dominique Franks Atlanta Falcons Cornerback
    Kelly Gregg Kansas City Chiefs Defensive Tackle
    Jermaine Gresham Cincinnati Bengals Tight End
    Tommie Harris San Diego Chargers Defensive Tackle
    Garrett Hartley New Orleans Saints Place kicker
    Davin Joseph Tampa Bay Buccaneers Guard
    Phil Loadholt Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
    Curtis Lofton Atlanta Falcons Linebacker
    Gerald McCoy Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive Tackle
    DeMarco Murray Dallas Cowboys Running Back
    Adrian Peterson Minnesota Vikings Running Back
    Brodney Pool New York Jets Safety
    Reggie Smith San Francisco 49ers Safety
    Jimmy Wilkerson Seattle Seahawks Defensive End
    Trent Williams Washington Redskins Offensive Tackle

    Former Texas Players in the NFL- 47 Players

    Sam Acho Arizona Cardinals Linebacker
    Cedric Benson Cincinnati Bengals Running Back
    Justin Blalock Atlanta Falcons Guard
    Tarell Brown San Francisco 49ers Cornerback
    Curtis Brown Pittsburgh Steelers Cornerback
    Chykie Brown Baltimore Ravens Cornerback
    Jamaal Charles Kansas City Chiefs Running Back
    Quan Cosby Denver Broncos Wide Receiver
    Tim Crowder Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive End
    Phil Dawson Cleveland Browns Place kicker
    Derrick Dockery Dallas Cowboys Guard
    Jermichael Finley Green Bay Packers Tight End
    Michael Griffin Tennessee Titans Safety
    Cedric Griffin Minnesota Vikings Cornerback
    Ahmard Hall Tennessee Titans Fullback
    Casey Hampton Pittsburgh Steelers Nose Tackle
    Tony Hills Denver Broncos Offensive Tackle
    Kyle Hix New England Patriots Offensive Tackle
    Lamarr Houston Oakland Raiders Defensive End
    Michael Huff Oakland Raiders Safety
    Quentin Jammer San Diego Chargers Cornerback
    Derrick Johnson Kansas City Chiefs Linebacker
    Sergio Kindle Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
    Cullen Loeffler Minnesota Vikings Long Snapper
    Colt McCoy Cleveland Browns Quarterback
    Richmond McGee Cleveland Browns Punter
    Henry Melton Chicago Bears Defensive Tackle
    Roy Miller Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive Tackle
    Roddrick Muckelroy Cincinnati Bengals Linebacker
    Chris Ogbonnaya Houston Texans Running Back
    Frank Okam Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive Tackle
    Brian Orakpo Washington Redskins Linebacker
    Cory Redding Baltimore Ravens Defensive Tackle
    Brian Robison Minnesota Vikings Defensive End
    Shaun Rogers New Orleans Saints Defensive Tackle
    Aaron Ross New York Giants Cornerback
    Bo Scaife Cincinnati Bengals Tight End
    Jonathan Scott Pittsburgh Steelers Offensive Tackle
    Lyle Sendlein Arizona Cardinals Center
    Jordan Shipley Cincinnati Bengals Wide Receiver
    Kasey Studdard Houston Texans Guard
    David Thomas New Orleans Saints Tight End
    Earl Thomas Seattle Seahawks Safety
    Ricky Williams Baltimore Ravens Running Back
    Roy Williams Chicago Bears Wide Receiver
    Aaron Williams Buffalo Bills Cornerback
    Vince Young Philadelphia Eagles Quarterback

    NCJIM ●

  • Texas fans have been saying for a year they were in the OU game and should have won. I've watched it ten times and they were owned every time.

    Deep Red

  • ole Skip - I too watched that texas/ucla gme -- both teams are bad- really bad !! what texas accomplished against a weak bruin team is really not anything to write home about -- Okla will win easily --

    okiesnr44

  • okiesnr44 said...

    ole Skip - I too watched that texas/ucla gme -- both teams are bad- really bad !! what texas accomplished against a weak bruin team is really not anything to write home about -- Okla will win easily --

    If a john blake coached team that hasn't won one game can beat the whorns then anything can happen in that game. I'll be happy with any kind of win.

    OUManiac

    OUManiac

  • south of austin down around san antonio there are many sooner fans , they follow travis lewis and tom wort and more and more i see ou hats and shirts and many are upset of whats going on in the conference and texas influence , Many follow us close and its nice when we are winning cause texas fans dont say anything when we are....but man they are horrible if we lose...sure wish we could have gotten that cb from brandeis high he is a stud but he wants to play in the Sec..and i hope we dont see more of that unless we decide to go there too....

    sooners101

  • My outside opinion of Texas recruits is they get really good players but many don't have much upside, they've basically peaked their senior year in high school whereas OU will take someone who has the potential to get better and carry more weight but remain at the same speed. Better evaluators of future talent in my opinion. Texas still has great players but OU consistently has more because of that scouting/philosophy.

    Scotty22

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