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Ryan Broyles = Most under rated player in Draft

  • Just saw a little video of what a couple of the "experts" say are the most under rated players in the draft. None were OU...most were coast players, one was a WR from Cal.

    Ryan has to be one of the most under rated players in the draft. If Baylor's Wright is taken in the first round and RB isn't taken very soon after, he will be one of the biggest gets for some team (hope it's the RAMS).

    With his accomplishments (yds and records) in college a how can he not be a top 2 round pick? He has to have the best hands in the draft.

    Good luck Ryan!! Keep kicking butt at the pro day.

    This post was edited by lifesooner on 4/12/2012 at 10:54 AM

    lifesooner

  • Well let's see, he passed Taylor Stubblefield for the career receptions mark; was still behind Marcus Harris and Trevor Insley for yardage; and was behind Darius Watts, Troy Edwards and Jarret Dillard for TDs.

    College greatness, and there is no doubt Ryan was a GREAT college football player, means next to nothing moving to the next level.

    capclay

  • I think Broyles will have a similar career to that of Wes Welker. Welker is never going to grade out high with speed, stregnth, etc...but Welker for the most part is going to catch everything thrown his way. I think Broyles is very similar, he will not be the fastest, although running 4.57 and 4.59 only 4 1/2 months after ACL surgery is impressive. Sure there are going to be faster and stronger guys, but I doubt any of them understand how to get open like Broyles. I have seen Blackmon drop more balls in one game than Broyles did for his entire career. Any team would be lucky to pick up Broyles.

    OUatty

  • OUatty said...

    I think Broyles will have a similar career to that of Wes Welker. Welker is never going to grade out high with speed, stregnth, etc...but Welker for the most part is going to catch everything thrown his way. I think Broyles is very similar, he will not be the fastest, although running 4.57 and 4.59 only 4 1/2 months after ACL surgery is impressive. Sure there are going to be faster and stronger guys, but I doubt any of them understand how to get open like Broyles. I have seen Blackmon drop more balls in one game than Broyles did for his entire career. Any team would be lucky to pick up Broyles.

    Wow.

    Wes Welker is a one in a million, maybe more. Ryan is another under sized, average speed, short receiver who had a fantastic college career. Now add an ACL to that mix and the writing is on the wall. I hate to be a naysayer, but history is pretty much 99.9% in favor of this analysis. I hope we are both wrong.

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  • capclay said...

    Well let's see, he passed Taylor Stubblefield for the career receptions mark; was still behind Marcus Harris and Trevor Insley for yardage; and was behind Darius Watts, Troy Edwards and Jarret Dillard for TDs.

    College greatness, and there is no doubt Ryan was a GREAT college football player, means next to nothing moving to the next level.

    Great college football players mean next to nothing is totally absurd.

    Here are some names of the All time greatest College WR. If you want stats I can back them up in a heart beat. There are obviously going to be great college players that bust at ever single position.

    Lynn Swann
    Randy Moss
    Calvin Johnson
    Keyshawn Johnson
    Braylon Edwards
    Larry Fitzgerald
    Anthony Carter
    Desmond Howard
    Bob Hayes
    Tim Brown
    Jerry Rice
    Michael Crabtree
    Howard Twilley and Steve Largent both Tulsa All Americans also did pretty darn well in the pro's

    My point is you could have just easily have said..."being a great college football player means next to nothing at the next level". Again, an untrue statement.

    If you're saying that RB will be a bust...I agree to disagree. I think he will be the next Steve Largent/Wes Welker. A guy that finds holes in the defense and never drops a ball will be on my draft board all day, every day

    lifesooner

  • Predicting greatness or busts at the NFL level is just as bad as ranking college recruits. Both are extremely difficult to project.

    Quite frankly, I will be surprised if Ryan isn't a pretty solid NFL WR. Like Welker you can't judge the intangibles that a kid like Ryan might bring to an NFL team. The only question would be his knee and his progression from the date of the injury to the present seems to be a good answer to that question.

    I hope he makes it and won't be surprised if the does become a very good NFL WR.

    roygbell

  • The best thing to happen in the NFL is the rise of the slot receiver as a pass catching weapon in most team's offenses. Players like Austin Collie, Victor Cruz, Danny Amoendola, and of course Wes Welker should give teams pause before they overlook Broyles in the draft. Ryan's intelligence, route running, great quickness and knack for getting open in small spaces should negate any questions about speed. I think if Ryan finds a the right team and situation (ahem, Rams...?) then he will have a solid NFL career for many years. Of course that is if he stays healthy, etc. I'm just glad to see him back on the field so quickly.

    stubbysooner1

  • stubbysooner1 said...

    The best thing to happen in the NFL is the rise of the slot receiver as a pass catching weapon in most team's offenses. Players like Austin Collie, Victor Cruz, Danny Amoendola, and of course Wes Welker should give teams pause before they overlook Broyles in the draft. Ryan's intelligence, route running, great quickness and knack for getting open in small spaces should negate any questions about speed. I think if Ryan finds a the right team and situation (ahem, Rams...?) then he will have a solid NFL career for many years. Of course that is if he stays healthy, etc. I'm just glad to see him back on the field so quickly.

    Yep^^

    lifesooner

  • capclay's point is well-taken. College players with great stats often fail to make an impact in the NFL. Look at all the Hawaii QBs or Tech QBs. Notice the list of WRs Broyles passed to reach the top. Great stats, little pro success. Thus the fear of the dreaded "system players." Great college players, though (those who conribute to overall team success without necessarily racking up big numbers), generally do well in the NFL. Brady had good, but not great, college numbers. The same with both Mannings. Combined they didn't have Tommy Chang's numbers.
    The point with Broyles is simple: how much impact will the injury have a year from now. No one knows. Most would agree that, prior to the injury, Broyles had NFL talent. As for the future, the jury is still out.
    Having said that, all Sooner fans are pulling for him to make it big.

    brosooner

  • He gets open and rarely drops a ball. Very dependable. Exactly what a quarterback wants.

    BeachSooner

  • brosooner said...

    capclay's point is well-taken. College players with great stats often fail to make an impact in the NFL. Look at all the Hawaii QBs or Tech QBs. Notice the list of WRs Broyles passed to reach the top. Great stats, little pro success. Thus the fear of the dreaded "system players." Great college players, though (those who conribute to overall team success without necessarily racking up big numbers), generally do well in the NFL. Brady had good, but not great, college numbers. The same with both Mannings. Combined they didn't have Tommy Chang's numbers. The point with Broyles is simple: how much impact will the injury have a year from now. No one knows. Most would agree that, prior to the injury, Broyles had NFL talent. As for the future, the jury is still out. Having said that, all Sooner fans are pulling for him to make it big.

    Here here.

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  • My point was never that Broyles is doomed to failure. The point is and remains, college stats mean very little when moving up to the next level. His success or failure will ride on how well he recovers his speed, his ability to get off press coverage, and his resistance to further injury. I hope the guy does great, he has been a great player for OU. The most underrated player in the draft? I would settle for having a really good, lucrative NFL career.

    capclay

  • Come on now! Most of the pundits on the NFL network had Ryan rated as a highto mid second round choice before his ACL injury. The fact is that the NFL values the big, strong and speedy outside WRs e.g Blackmon, Floyd and Randle more than they do slot receivers which Broyles will most certainly be. Wright whose size is similar to Ryan grades out as a late 1st rounder, but his 40 is better than Ryan's. Now its more likely he'll be taken somewhere in the 3rd round. Most of the scouts who've seen him and the pundits know that Ryan will have productive NFL career and they've said as much.

    SFValleySooner