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Oregon Ducks = Nike = Untouchable?

  • I have to wonder if the rules work the same for Oregon as other schools.

    Phil Knight - their biggest booster - their super booster - founded Nike

    Nike is the biggest athletic shoemaker - and a huge sports clothing maker.

    The "shoe contracts" provide millions to school athletic departments and coaches.

    The "shoe contract" money is what allows coaches to be paid so much.

    Nike also is a huge advertiser for NCAA events - especially basketball - but football, too.

    The demand for TV advertising at NCAA events is what allows the NCAA to get so much money for their TV rights, etc.

    Would the NCAAA go after their biggest advertiser with the same gusto as "normal" schools for a recruiting violation?

    I doubt it.

    They sure don't seem to have done much so far for the Willie Lysles (sp?) shenanigans.

    This post was edited by roadster on 1/8/2012 at 4:29 AM

    roadster ●

  • roadster said...

    I have to wonder if the rules work the same for Oregon as other schools.

    Phil Knight - their biggest booster - their super booster - founded Nike

    Nike is the biggest athletic shoemaker - and a huge sports clothing maker.

    The "shoe contracts" provide millions to school athletic departments and coaches.

    The "shoe contract" money is what allows coaches to be paid so much.

    Nike also is a huge advertiser for NCAA events - especially basketball - but football, too.

    The demand for TV advertising at NCAA events is what allows the NCAA to get so much money for their TV rights, etc.

    Would the NCAAA go after their biggest advertiser with the same gusto as "normal" schools for a recruiting violation?

    I doubt it.

    They sure don't seem to have done much so far for the Willie Lysles (sp?) shenanigans.

    Roadster,I think you're on the right track.It's like cutting off the hand that feeds you.

    frizz

  • We owe them a big back on Owen Field, where Nike doesn't have influence over the refs. Chip Kelly is a piece of work. I would not trust him as far as I could throw him. When is he NCAA going after Lyles?

    After his win over Wisconsin, he described his team as one big happy family. I think we know the family and their code of conduct is one of 'OMERTA'. Questa e la parola della familigia Siciliana per tutto silenzio.

    Corporate ownership of schools like Oregon and OSwho will come back to bite them on the butt one of these days.

    My hatred for all things Oregon began with the robbery that took place in Eugene in September 2006. I have never seen worse officiating in any game, college or professional. Unbelievable! That was during Belotti's regime, but I think Chip is even a lower life form than his predecessor.

    And finally, their uniforms are atrocious-indicative of a team without any tradition whatsoever.

    This post was edited by VNSooner on 1/8/2012 at 7:53 AM

    VNSooner

  • You guys bring up all interesting points. I am not against Oregon as much as others. I also don't see their mistakes as bad and corrupt as others. I see Oregon's relationship with Phil Knight isn't much diff than many other big schools like OSUck. It is just a benefit of having a large benefactor. We need to get some more ourselves. :-)

    albsooner

  • I think the NCAA should build a corporate compliance office building right next to their campus! Da Ducks reek of improprieties! Did I say that right?

    oufisherman

  • what's worse? The Nike/ Oregon Dorks connection or the ESPIN/ Texass connection. ALL of it = corruption in the sport we love in my opinion!

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    DLPSOONER ●

  • I think Oregon's situation is very different than OSU's. At OSU there is a large contributor who wields too much power and should have simply bought a professional franchise of some sort. While I find is somewhat disgusting, I don't see OSU as having any special clout with the NCAA.

    At Oregon you have the problems of OSU PLUS you have a situation where their "sponsor" is also a huge "sponsor" for the major NCAA sports and you are not going to see people "go after them" who are receiving a a great deal of money from them. That ranges from opposing schools and coaches to the NCAA itself.

    roadster ●

  • DLPSOONER said...

    what's worse? The Nike/ Oregon Dorks connection or the ESPIN/ Texass connection. ALL of it = corruption in the sport we love in my opinion!

    Could not agree more! I love all that is OU but would not want to be a part of that kind of commercialism, it would alienate us from the rest and create factions rather than unity.

    oufisherman

  • DLPSooner, I think your ESPIN / Texass term is excellent. I really like that!

    That is ANOTHER major conflict of interest, isn't it!

    roadster ●

  • roadster said...

    DLPSooner, I think your ESPIN / Texass term is excellent. I really like that!

    That is ANOTHER major conflict of interest, isn't it!

    Should never been allowed to happen! It is not only a conflict of interest but a huge unfair advantage and a slap in the face from ESPN to all the other 115 major college programs. I do not listen to the Sports Animal or watch ESPN news or sports center anymore, that should be hurting them quite substantially...lol

    oufisherman

  • Great Post Roadster... I guess we will see how things play out.

    Seems to have some similarity to Special Interest Groups and Congress.

    NCJIM

  • This is just one of quite a few issues that are simply ruining the college games.

    The OP is on target. What the NCAA does in regards to they Lyles deal is going to be interesting. I think it is clear that OU likely lost a recruit because of Lyles and his money plays. If the NCAA doesn't nip this kind of stuff in the bud they could possibly open a flood gate of others trying to make money off of these kids.

    I quit watching the NBA and NFL because of what I view as money ruining the games. I can't handle the spoiled athletes and this last NBA lock out just was another nail in the casket for me.

    As others have mentioned, ESPN's close association with the SEC and Texas are serious issues that seemingly undermine the level playing field. One can see down the road that ESPN with their money and influence can determin the winners and losers. I think it is happening right before our eyes.

    I also think that the NCAA is essentially powerless to right some of these ships. The NCAA is powerless to do much to impact the effect ESPN has on it's games. Legally, how do they stop deals like the LHN?

    The answer is they can't.

    The only possible remedy I can see is the rest of college football finding a way to stop it. Back years ago, the small schools were dictating rules impacting the now FBS schools. What the FBS schools did was create an alliance and threaten to abandon the NCAA in order to keep control of their own destiny. The SEC was one of the leaders in this effort. I truly believe that now the SEC is one of the culprits in pushing it further with their alliance with ESPN. Not sure I blame them for seeking the money, but the result is sure going to result in a very unlevel playing field.

    roygbell

  • Not sure I blame them for seeking the money, but the result is sure going to result in a very unlevel playing field.

    Roy, it is already happening!

    oufisherman

  • Nike needs cfb as much as cfb needs Nike.

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    OUinLA

  • Most everyone said nothing would happen to USC bc they were the sacred cow. Then, the NCAA put the hammer down.

    bhigg33

  • The NCAA needs to be very careful they are dangerously close to losing their position. If enough schools get the notion to separate from the NCAA and form their own alliance it will be the end for them. I believe it is closer than many think. the story is the super conference will be the beginning. For this reason alone the NCAA has to seem fair in their dealings with ALL transgressors.

    otrsooner ●

  • Conspiracy theory # 345324563463456 that has no teeth.

    As if another sporting goods company would not slide into Nike's place in a heartbeat if Nike tried to throw its weight around and use its contracts to influence compliance efforts by the NCAA.

    Nike is the NCAA's bitch to do with as the NCAA pleases, not the other way around.

    Matteon

  • I don't think Oregon is "untouchable" considering the NCAA is currently investigating them for recruiting violations.

    Landry Jones - "Sooner Nation needs the stache"

    SoonerDan74012

  • oufisherman said...

    Should never been allowed to happen! It is not only a conflict of interest but a huge unfair advantage and a slap in the face from ESPN to all the other 115 major college programs. I do not listen to the Sports Animal or watch ESPN news or sports center anymore, that should be hurting them quite substantially...lol

    Down vote over my post above is pure chicken squat!

    oufisherman

  • The NCAA is going down a bunch of slippery slopes. Not investigating some schools is unfair to the rest of the Universties that support the NCAA. The NCAA has a lot of sacred cows that they won't investigate unless a lawsuit is thrown in their face like Bush/USC.
    They admit that Cam Newton's dad took thousands from Auburn but decided that Cam had no knowledge of it so it was OK.
    WHAT???????
    Is THAT gonna come back and bite them in the ass! Unless it's Texas, Florida, Notre Dame, Auburn (obviously), Bama, FSU, Nebraska, and all the member schools of the PAC-12 on the coast! And others!
    OU and Georgia sued the NCAA that the TV rights belonged to the individual schools. We won the suit which is why we are able to watch a gazillion games every weekend instead one or two "Games of the Week".
    Both schools were on probation within 2 years.
    All NCAA schools should pay us and the Dogs a small percentage of their TV profits. (Yeah right!)
    We had the guts to make it right and we took the fall.

    billk

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