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DenverSooner said...
I don't have any respect for Brian Kelly. I think he allowed that student to film football practice and should have been terminated if not prosecuted for his actions. Kelly chose to have practice. Kelly chose to have practice filmed. A student died as a result of those decisions. How can anyone respect that man.
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DenverSooner said...
I don't have any respect for Brian Kelly. I think he allowed that student to film football practice and should have been terminated if not prosecuted for his actions. Kelly chose to have practice. Kelly chose to have practice filmed. A student died as a result of those decisions. How can anyone respect that man.
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kaisercash said...
Is it just me or is Nickel your guys base defense rewatched some highlights from the Kstate game couldnt find a full game replay, but im surprised how much you ran nickel against a running team. Could just be the highlights I saw and not the defense you were running the whole game, but seems like Stoops runs a 4-2-5 as a base and I know Jefferson is kinda of that hybrid LB/FS (btw what a player). I understand playing in the Big12 you build your defense for passing. Just curious how often are you in a 4-3? Thanks
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corysold said...
Stats are stats are stats. We can recite them all day long. Oklahoma put up big points on Texas, Kansas, Florida A&M etc. Guess what, ND put up big points on the bad defenses they played too, Miami and Navy. ND doesn't have a great offense, but they have played four pretty great defenses.
That said, Oklahoma has a pretty stout defense as well. The question will be, can the undersized, but speedy, Oklahoma front 7 slow down the run of ND? If yes, Oklahoma wins this one as Golson just isn't there yet to beat a talented secondary on his own.
However, if ND can get a run game going, which they have the past two weeks, that will give Golson a chance to use some play action to get to the edge where he is at his best. ND has worn down the last three opponents in the second half. Can the smaller OU front 7 maintain their level of play for all four quarters?
On the other side, ND plays a conservative cover 2, not giving up big plays, stops the run and makes teams drive 10-12 plays to score. Can Oklahoma play crisp on offense and be patient? ND has had a few broken coverages (who hasn't), but have been pretty solid in not giving up big plays and they tackle well in space when the ball gets dumped off.
If OU can be consistent on offense, avoid sacks, penalties and drops, they'll move the ball on ND. Then it will be "BellDozer" vs. the best red zone TD defense in the nation. A good battle for sure.
On one hand, every fan base has said "ND hasn't faced a team like us" this year, but ND just keeps finding a way to win. ND has actually played their best football on the road this year. No, they haven't scored a ton, but they've scored when they've needed to. Kelly has gotten conservative in a bunch of games in the second half and counted on the D. That may not work this week.
I "think" ND can do enough with run game to get to 20-24 points, maybe 27 if they can hit a big pass play or two. I also think if OU plays a clean game, they'll get to 27-30. But ND has been pretty good about getting teams out of rhythm and making them play worse than they are.
I think it is two pretty even teams with different styles. OU will try to run away from and around ND, ND will try to run through and over OU. Whoever gets their style rolling probably wins the game.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Deep Red on 10/22/2012 at 8:21 PM
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soonerinlawton said...
Yes, "Nobody can predict anything with this game" with any certainty. But I will take a stab a some parts of it.
It could be a close game, but being in Norman OK has to help us. It didn't help when KSU was here, but I was at that game and it was obvious we beat ourselves (not knocking KSU, they are a good, well coached team). We had plenty of opportunities to win, but we just kept missing them.
Since then our team has found its composure. Now our offensive coaches seem to know what LJ's strengths and weaknesses are and are designing plays that put him in a position to succeed. Everyone is taking about our receivers, but I think the successful running and pass catching of our running backs Millard and D. Williams will be the key to our victory. Second to that, if it is a close game, the emergence of our punt and kickoff return game could be the difference Saturday night. ND would be smart to kick out of bounds every time they can.
I'd say there are two ways we lose. One, if OU doesn't rush for 100 yards we lose. Secondly, if we have 3 or more turnovers, we lose. So if we can avoid those two things, I think OU wins nicely.
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NattyRUDESND said...
This doesn't matter when our front 7 is putting pressure on Landry. You guys have not faced our quality defense this year. And to be honest Kansas State gave you troubles. Notre Dame has proven this year that they can get it done no matter how bad we are on offense.
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FalconSooner said...
Good post. I expect a tough game as well. ND has shown itself to be a salty club with a lot of character. I don't expect it to be a walk like a lot of OU fans think it will be. ND has a D comparable to KSU and KSU was able to rattle Jones. I think Jones is playing much better now but he also hasn't faced any significant pressure since KSU. If ND is able to pressure Jones then ND will be in the game heading into the 4th qtr where ND has played excellently this year. IF ND can't pressure Jones then it should be a comfortable OU win because of OU's skill athletes.
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nysoonerfan said...
Can any ND fans posting tell me exactly what offenses they have played against so far this season that could even remotely be thought of as dynamic or explosive? OU has more highly skilled players on offense than ND wil see in its other 10 games(excluding USC) combined. That won't be an easy in-game adjustment to make.
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kaisercash said...
One of the things Im interested in seeing is if Diaco brings pressure early. Normally our defense plays a bend but dont break style. Dont give up the big play, stop the run, and try to get pressure with 4. Given Oklahoma's fast starts ill be curious to see if he sends guys early to try and get hits on Jones. Im pretty sure Stoops will have everyone at the line showing blitz on every play. Stanford was pretty effective blitzing or showing blitz. I thought Golson did a better job in the 2nd half of that game and if he ever figures out he has the best pass recieving TE in the country we could get some great one on one match ups. Im wondering if Stoops plays Jefferson on Eifert or elects to go with a nickel package and goes with th nickel corner. Eifert is our biggest weapon and our best match up player. I think he has to have atleast one td and 7-10 catches if we are to win. Id like to see misdirection get golson rolling a few plays and then a fake roll draw. Maybe even some delayed screens to the rb's dont think we have ran one all year. Got to use Oklahoma's aggressiveness to our advantage
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KYSooner said...
I'm not convinced that you defense is all that you make it out to be. Frankly, with the offenses you have played against, your stats should have you in the top 5 defensively. As for the KSU game, we had over 400 yds offense and the KSU offense (#11 scoring offense) scored 17, 14 in the 4th qtr. KSU did win and that win was a gift. Don't count on OU being that generous again.
If you look at your schedule and the schedule of those teams, ND may have one quality win, Stanford, only because Stanford beat USC. The best offense you've played is Purdue at #48. OU has already played 3 teams in the top 11 in scoring offense.
How is your front 7 going to pressure Landry with 5 receivers available. Not going to cover someone? Going to play zone with 4 guys? You do that and Landry may complete 50 passes.
It always amazes me how many people, no matter what it is, only want to look at the pieces that support their point of view. The bottom line is that ND has an offense that is way below average and a defense that has racked up stats against below average offenses. In OU you will face the best defense you have seen all year and it is not even close and the best and most balanced offense you have played against. The OU defense has been tested against 3 of the best offenses in the nation, ND defense has not really been tested. On paper, the ND defense is the best that OU has seen but not by much. The KSU defense is very comparable. I don't see how the ND offense is going to score. If OU does not turn the ball over and give ND a very short field, they may get shutout, that is how bad their offense is and I have watched the BYU, Stanford, Michigan, Miami, and Navy games.
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if Jones is protected you win by 2 TD's if not it's close..Would love to hear each OL's strength/weakness and list of best OL with position and same goes for DL.. Our RG Golic, Mikes boy, is huge liability on the OL.. 
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