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That's another good example.

That game against Texas in the 80's that ended up in a tie on a rainy day when the Keith Stanberry interception in the end zone was disallowed for God knows what reason. That one still sticks in my craw.

Except there was only one JW pick-6, LSU had 4 first downs in the 2nd half and their defense was much more dominant than ours (their offense had over twice the yardage of our 154.) We had a great chance at the end but they kicked our butts all night.

A few stand out to me .....

1. That Switzer wasnt that great of a coach , just a great recruiter and bser........Yes he was a great recruiter and he was a players coach . But outsiders fail to realize his off knowledge . Such as perfecting the triple option , his tinkering with different aspect and gimmick plays off the triple base . And his adjusting the offense when needed to take advantage of his best players.

2.That OU since Stoops has been there is a finesse strictly passing team ......When i travel and talk football with other tourist , i am shocked to learn that they think of OU a pass only team that never runs the ball , like a run and shoot team . I always bring up how yes we do pass the ball alot , but Stoops really is old school and wants to be somewhat balanced . I bring up how we almost always play with a fb , and how hes usually the all league choice at years end. I mention Griffin , Demarco , Peterson . Then i mention that maybe they should look up the stats these guess racked up , then look at how many games they missed because of injury and it will even be more impressive.

3. That Mack is just as good a coach as Stoops ....Yes mack has a great record and has also won a nat champ , and played in another . But lets look deeper...Mack has done less with more than any coach in the nation . He is the anti Mike Leech , Bill Snyder , these guys might not kiss ass and hug everyone like Mack , but they will take far less talent and coach them up. Stoops is much the same way , he takes 3 and4 star players and usually gets the most out of their abilities. You actually see improvement out of OU players from year to year . Aslo unlike Mack stoops doesnt beleive in entitlement and promising you a starting job during recruiting. Look at Macks non conf schedule compared to ours every year and see who has played harder competition. Bob has won heads up more often , and many years he doesnt just win , he stomps Mack in historic routs. He has won more conf champs , has played in twice as many nat champs games . And his worst teams are usually because of injury and he bounces back quickly. Mack has no excuse of injury , schedule , lack of talent ....it all comes down to coaching and mental toughness. When Stoops does lose he will quickly point out why we got beat will make no excuses . When Mack loses he always trys to spin the loss and wont even let his players be held accountable . You see Stoops chewing ass and handing out tough love when is called for. All i ever see Mack do is clap on the sidelines and smile while hugging his fragile players. So yes Mack is a decent coach and a hell of a nice guy , but its more off a case of him just being in a dream job. A job that at least 50 coaches could be placed in and they would have winning teams { something that the last 2 years mack has struggled to even stay a .500 team}.

This is a good thread! I agree about the Boise game. Many people also forget OU was down 28-10 and pulled off a furious rally to go up 35-28 until BSU started all those trick plays. OU was also missing Malcolm Kelly that game which really hurt. I also somewhat concur about LSU game. Yes they dominated us in stats but a good chunk of their yards came on a couple of big plays. Also we were blowing them off the ball in the 4th quarter until KW got pass happy. Furthermore Strait had a great strip and recovery that should have given us great field position but official blew call.

The one I wanted to add is the myth that the 2008 Sooners were running up the scores in the 4th quarter. I tried to find the box scores but I couldn't. But I was arguing with a UT fan a few mos ago who was convinced OU was scoring 3-4 TDs in the 4th qtr with Bradford throwing bombs. Actually OU scored very few points in the 4th quarter that year and may even been outscored in 4th. UT even with good guy Colt and Mack scored more in 4th than we did. Along those same lines was the myth that the 2003 sooners ran it up on a&M in the 77-0 blowout. Again all 77 points were before 4th quarter. In fact we went to great pains not to scored in 4th and almost got our RBs killed in process. Franchione even admitted OU could have scored over 100 if we had wanted to.

How could anyone leave out the screw job at Oregon w Gordon
Reese.

Definitely a screw-job, but I don't recall any media types saying we deserved it, or the calls were good, etc.

Forgot about Cowturd. Good recall. A local Pac-10 alum in Albuquerque was also spouting off early that week that OU had no complaint, but he conveniently forgot that the really bad "pass interference" call followed the EPIC blunder of saying Oregon recovered the onside kick. But, he's small potatoes, anyway, and clueless.

Curious what others recall about "Finger-gate" parts 1 and 2, of the 1984 OU men's basketball season.

That's why Tubbs was accused of flipping off the crowd at Boulder in a three-OT game that we finally won. Then, over a month later, Choo Kennedy was doing the same in Beakerville.

Never mind that I think KU deserves a group-flippage.... This has to do with how it was covered. I didn't live in Oklahoma at the time, but here's what I remember hearing about it second-hand:

1. the CU "bird" was most likely an outright lie, spread by a writer who hated Billy so much that he even took pleasure in Tubbs' near-fatal jogging accident. Same guy, an ex-Missouri Antler named Randy Holtz, later wrote for Basketball Times. I canceled a subscription because of him.

2. the "KU bird" was Choo waving a championship ring, which he borrowed from former OU grad assistant Mike Anderson, I believe (from the '79 season). And it's not like you're going to get much honesty from the pro-KU writers of that region anyway. If you ever saw "semi-retired" Topeka writer Chuck Woodling's hit-piece of Wayman Tisdale, AFTER HIS PASSING, you'll know what I mean. It was so despicable that even many KU fans posted below the link to apologize.

3. for some reason, the DOK didn't send a writer on the road with those '84 Sooners, who wound up 29-5. So they never challenged any of the stories about those nights. I heard Al Eschbach and John Brooks talking about it once on the radio, that summer that I did move back, and they said the coverage was ridiculous and downright dishonest.

Totally agree! Also, when we had our problems in late 80's, I think CU and Mizzery both had more players arrested off the field but since they didn't have the 'name' nobody cared and nobody reported. The Beefaloes were the worst!

Refs in BOTH games should have been FIRED, pure and simple!

I would put the 88 game first for these reasons:

1. It was for a national championship;
2. It was basketball and would be our first in that sport;and
3. We owned Kansas that year until that game.

It still haunts me...

That LSU dominated us in the national game was only because of the USC blowout...same with Florida. We could have easily won three national championships under Stoops, but take away the Jason's pick six and his overthrow of Kejuan Jones...we win... I wonder why no one mentions the spies Saban had to see our formations during practice either...ethically challenged.

The Oregon game was just larceny, closely followed by Texas Tech and then the tie in Dallas...I was there...what a miserable game.