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...or, Mark Rodgers doesn't know what he's talking about. wouldn't be the first time.

I agree it would be great and hope to see him back but James made some comments regarding this that made a lot of sense in that V would probably not take or be happy with a reduction in responsibilities and from everything else he said it would mean that someone moves on and Mike assumes that role only. Besides recruiting, this is the topic that I have the most interest in right now and hope it turns out a win win situation.

To me, if any coach deserves to go, it's Patton.

I do not know anything about Martinez but with V I think he needs to adjust his defensive philosophies and coach to his players strengths and adjust around their weaknesses, dummy it up so to speak. I do not want him gone just frustrated with seeing the same mistakes time after time from the same players and that alone tells me that someone is confused and just does not get it or is buying in to what he is selling. Confidence is everything and when what you are doing is failing you lose it and your edge.

If Mike is coming back then it has to be a defensive coach leaving...you aren't going to for example have Mike coach the O line.

Interesting few weeks between now and signing date.

I agree about Patton, but I don't get the hard on to fire Martinez? He's a good recruiter and he's had ONE year. The problem with the D Backs was personnel (basically safety) AND the lack of ANY kind of push from the DTs.

this is ridiculous...nothing to see here...

1+ Hook!

Just hitting on what James said on this subject, I do not see Stoops firing or demoting V whether he deserves it or not and that is just my opinion not trying to pick a fight and like James, me and many others said is someone will have to go and if you think about it if that were not the case he would probably already be on the staff.

The problem I see with the love fest for Mike is that the Big 12 is a totally different animal on the offensive side of the ball since 2003. Back then only OU and Tech were spread teams. With the exceptions of Texas (where they have been a dismal failure at recruiting a QB) and KSU, I think everyone runs it: OU, OSU, Baylor, Tech, KU, ISU, WVU and TCU. They may not all be real up tempo, but they all spread you out and make your LBs cover an eiligible receiver. With playing these types of offenses most of the time, you really have to be able to get consistent pressure with your DTs and DEs. I'm not saying you don't blitz from time-to-time, but to hold these types of offenses down, you have to get consistent pressure on the QB with the DL. I don't care what you are playing behind the DL (zone, man, bump-and-run, cover 2, cover 3, etc.) without a really good DL, these teams are going to score and get a lot of yardage. Without a really, really good DL, OU will not have a top 10 defense. They may be really good, but from a statistics standpoint, they won't be top 10 in any defensive category.

It is just that simple.

So unless Mike can conjure up some serious talent at DT (SEC All-American talent), I don't think just having Mike would make much if any difference.

To me what you are saying is what makes everything else look as bad as it does. Hitting those guys off the line and playing our best on theirs would disrupt their rhythm and would make the pass rush more effective. I agree with you and hope we work on more tight man coverage and hopefully starting with the bowl game. You do not have to do this on every play, you can check out of it to jack with their play calling as well.

To some degree...yes.

Tackling was horrible...Jefferson want backwards IMHO. There were mental mistakes as well.

Keeping Lynn in too long during Tech was a coaching decision. Biting too hard on the play action during Baylor was a mental decision.

It could be personnel, but it could also be coaching....