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Lobo fans' wish list includes Leach, Mangino

  • I doubt UNM can afford either of them, but they'd also be a major upgrade.

    UNM finally canned Mike Locksley today, less than 24 hours after a disgraceful home loss to Sam Houston State. Once again, the "guy who'll take UNM to the 'next level'" has bombed (like the two guys they hired in basketball after Dave Bliss left in '99).

    NMSooner80

  • Has a college coach ever been canned this early before??? This isn't the NFL or MLB or NBA! I can't remember a college football coach being canned in Sept!

    This post was edited by TYCAT947 on 9/25/2011 at 11:46 PM

    TYCAT947

  • Didn't a visiting recruit get a DUI while driving a car rented by Locksley? That was probably the proverbial straw.

    gyrene

  • Arkansas canned a coach after the first game in 1992..... lost to Drake

    slapout

  • slapout said...

    Arkansas canned a coach after the first game in 1992..... lost to Drake

    Well, I probably would too! LMAO!

    TYCAT947

  • There seems to be some confusion of whether or not this kid with the DUI was a recruit or not. The scuttlebutt is that he was a friend of Locksley's son. Seriously, he was done when that kid from Midwest City (Tim Flanders) crossed the goal line in overtime to allow Sam Houston State to beat UNM.

    They've gone from beating BYU in Provo a couple of times in a row, not to mention wins at Mizzou in '05, vs. Tech in '04, and regular home whippings of Air Force in the early 2000's to this.....

    NMSooner80

  • slapout said...

    Arkansas canned a coach after the first game in 1992..... lost to Drake

    I thought it was The Citadel.

    3XT

  • I like what Leach could do to resurrect a program. I've always said if I were building or rebuilding a program and wanted quick results, I'd first find me a pass-happy kid with a quick trigger who could fling it 60 times a game, then put some big eaters in front him who may not be NFL caliber but could provide needed mass. There must be dozens of such kids in west Texas who'd love to play for The Pirate. He and they could turn the Lobos around in short order.

    "Burnt orange makes me puke!" - Mother Teresa (unverified)

    VladTheEmailer

  • VladTheEmailer said...

    I like what Leach could do to resurrect a program. I've always said if I were building or rebuilding a program and wanted quick results, I'd first find me a pass-happy kid with a quick trigger who could fling it 60 times a game, then put some big eaters in front him who may not be NFL caliber but could provide needed mass. There must be dozens of such kids in west Texas who'd love to play for The Pirate. He and they could turn the Lobos around in short order.

    That would be interesting if Leach (if hired, of course) could raid west Texas for big llinemen. Don't forget that the Panhandle / South Plains isn't that far from Albuquerque, and some of the eastern New Mexico high schools might be more prone to steer kids to UNM instead of to Tech. Heck, the Lobo "glory days" of the earlier 2000's (mainly 2001-07) included a star QB from Artesia (Kole McKamey), taking snaps from an NFL-bound center from west Albuquerque (Ryan Cook), and handing off to a former Parade All-American from Roswell (DonTrell Moore) or throwing to a future reality TV star from Clovis (Hank Baskett, of "Kendra" fame). Only Cook, of that group, wasn't from the eastern plains of New Mexico.

    The "Leach for Lobos" movement is picking up steam locally, so it'll be interesting to see if they can get it done. Someone just started a Facebook group to that effect.

    I'm also curious if Cale Gundy is bummed out over how poor Locksley did at UNM. He and Locksley are old pals from their Maryland days. Cale also told our local Sooner Caravan gathering in '09 that people ought to go to Lobo games because Locksley was going to do a great job. Seriously, Locksley was heavily endorsed by Gundy and others, so it makes it all the more strange that his hire turned out to be an "epic fail."

    NMSooner80

  • Either Leach or Mangino would be a significant upgrade and get that program respectable in short order. Leach's offense alone would put up enough points to get them to 7 wins. He can win with mid-grade talent, and can compete with larger programs when he starts getting upper level talent.

    Sooner5020

  • I didn't think Leach was looking for a coaching gig until all the legal stuff ran its course.

    SoonerNatChamps

  • I thought UNM had an ugly falling out with an established HC .

    I doubt Mangino or Leach would return their calls.

    Hback73317

  • The falling out with an established HC could have been Rocky Long. He has never publicly said anything, but it's at least a well-educated guess that he despises the current A.D.

    Here is a newer article about the whole situation:

    By Rick Wright / Journal Staff Writer on Sep. 28, 2011
    AD Accepts Heat, Challenge

    ANALYSIS

    This Hire, And Last, On Krebs

    Like so many things that ultimately failed miserably – McDonald’s McLean Deluxe, Caddyshack II, any relationship involving Britney Spears or Charlie Sheen – it seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Mike Locksley was a hot property, esteemed as both a recruiter and an offensive mind, in the late fall of 2008.

    The University of New Mexico, in its search for a head coach to replace Rocky Long, had competition for Locksley. The Illinois offensive coordinator was a strong candidate at Syracuse as well as at UNM.

    True, Locksley had no experience as a head coach. Neither had Urban Meyer, when UNM athletic director Paul Krebs hired him at Bowling Green in 2001, and Meyer worked out OK.

    Besides, Locksley interviewed spectacularly well. Another finalist, then-Baltimore Ravens assistant coach Hue Jackson, did not.

    Jackson, whose in-person interview with Krebs came immediately after a Ravens practice, was so unprepared that he thought UNM was still in the Western Athletic Conference.

    Now the head coach of the Oakland Raiders, Jackson might well have been the perfect hire. We’ll never know.

    Two years and some 10 months later, in the wake of Locksley’s firing Sunday, some are saying it might have been the worst college football hire of all time.

    On Monday, at a news conference, Krebs fell on his sword – kind of.

    “I have to be accountable,” he said. “This didn’t work, and that’s part of what I’m evaluated on as an AD.

    “I could tell you all the other wonderful things we’ve done, but football’s a big part of the picture.”

    Boy, did it ever not work.

    Locksley left the building with a 2-26 record, several off-the-field gaffes and with the UNM program a national laughingstock.

    Yet, Krebs argued, back in December 2008 even Nostradamus couldn’t have seen this coming.

    “I think the (search) process was sound,” he said. “When you hire and when you’re making personnel decisions, there’s no guarantee and no absolutes. … Mike was a guy that was in demand, and two or three universities (were interested).

    “Sometimes the right decisions at the time just don’t work out. I thought at the time it was the right decision.”

    Krebs is leaning heavily toward hiring someone with head-coaching experience this time around.

    “When you hire an assistant, you’re trying to project,” he said. “You can do all the research and homework you want, but in the end you don’t know until (the coach) is in that position.

    “When you hire a proven head coach you can look and see, ‘This is what we do offensively and defensively. This is my philosophy; discipline, academics.’ You’ve got something to measure and evaluate.”

    Yet, head-coaching experience certainly is no guarantee of success. For more on that subject, see McKay, Ritchie; Fraschilla, Fran; or Sheppard, Mike.

    Krebs isn’t a coach, but he has worked in athletic administration at Oklahoma and Ohio State. And, yes, he hired Meyer at Bowling Green.

    So, what went wrong at New Mexico with Locksley?

    To his credit, Krebs didn’t lay all of Locksley’s failures at the feet of scholarship limitations because of NCAA sanctions incurred on Long’s watch.

    “The scholarships are a piece (to the puzzle),” he said, “but they don’t explain 2-26.

    “For some reason, we weren’t able to transfer the talent and the productivity from the practice field to the game field.”

    Many times during the days leading up to his firing, Locksley denied feeling any heat – in fact, denied its existence.

    Krebs said he isn’t sweating, but he knows the heat is there and embraces it.

    “I want to get this right,” he said. “I believe strongly that we can be a very good program here.

    “You always feel pressure. But, yeah, probably a little more intensity in this one.”

    NMSooner80

  • By the way, I did want to clarify something, in regard to Bliss' tenure here in Albuquerque. He wasn't disliked by some boosters and the media because "they knew" he was doing something wrong in terms of NCAA rules or other things. They didn't like him because he didn't let the media and boosters dictate things like (A) scheduling, (B) use of bench players, (C) his starting lineup and (D) who he recruited in the state.

    Heck, the media's favorite all-time coach in this state, regardless of school, is Norm Ellenberger, one of the most epic cheaters in the not-so-distant past. He recruited a convicted rapist, signed other guys out of JC's who served jail time later, played one decent non-league foe in his seven years at UNM that wasn't NMSU, had a star player get his expulsion overturned after he was caught cheating on a final exam, was charged himself with filing false public vouchers (travel reimbursement documents), and was caught in a wiretap in the bribery / transcript-alteration scandal known as Lobogate, back in '79. But, he was flashy, as were some of his teams, and he schmoozed with the media like no one else since then has done. So they all loved him.

    And, Bliss was also disliked by some simply for being a blond-haired, blue-eyed Ivy Leaguer. That's enough of a reason right there for some folks to hate the guy.

    While it's understandable that people would dislike Bliss for what happened in Waco, that has nothing to do with his situation in New Mexico.

    NMSooner80

  • UPDATE, and it's still pretty heinous. They lost at home to NMSU, 42-28, at home yesterday. And NMSU is also pretty sorry. That's also the same school that OU beat, 73-3, in 1989, and Gibbs took it easy on them.

    The "get Leach" movement is gaining plenty of steam. I think they will want the entire staff out of here by the time mid-December rolls around. I was on the way to that game when I realized that I'd left my ticket at home. But, instead of going back and getting it, I just figured it would be more fun to stay away for awhile, then check on the score to see if I could get in free later. I could have, but I didn't want to see those Cruces Ag-pies enjoying themselves so much.

    NMSooner80