OUInsider - Owen Field

I have to agree to a certain point. Very interesting stats also. I would also like to see the stats for throwing a pick six, how many interceptions when trying to throw a ball out of bounds. As Landry grows so does my confidence in him, every year I like his play better but IMO he still has a ways to go. There's not a poster on this board that wants to see him have more success than me.

LJ is kind of like our Kick-off coverage team...good most of the time but when they make a mistake....it really hurts.....

Anytime you touch the ball every single play your mistakes are gonna hurt. Kick-off coverage has to go out there like what five times a game? So I would say that's a unfair comparison and Landry isn't good most the time he's actually great most the time just look at his numbers. Also name me one time Sam brought his team back from behind to win the game or made a crucial play on third down to seal the game? I can't think of any.

I agree...LJ is an outstanding college QB who is following Sammy - perhaps our greatest ever OU QB and that is a tough comparison.

Few things just from last season about LJ that give you pause for concern. Fumble at TX that nearly cost us dearly. Oscie at Mizzou which he threw right to a 6'6" DE 5 yards from LJ. Few picks at Okie State. He also had some shining moments...the TDs at Okie Light, the TD to Stills (?) against TX, the great throw to Stills against Nebbish...he is up and down...but I think he kicks butt next season.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sam bring us from behind at stillwater in what turned out to be a high scoring game. Sam didn't have to play catchup very much his Sophmore year and OU set the NCAA record for scoring that year.

From that I extrapolate that, in your opinion, LJ deseres credit for being the 3rd best QB of the Stoops era (comparing passing QB's to option QB's isn't viable IMO). With that in mind, I disagree that he is not getting the credit he deserves. I've not seen many people putting LJ further down the list of OU QB's. It appears to me that the amount of credit you are suggesting LJ deserves matches up pretty well with the credit he is actually being given.

Yes, you did midunderstand. When I mentioned option QB's I was referring to pre-Stoops QBs. The post I was responding to did not expressly limit QB comparison to the Stoops era, but I did so in my post and that was my reasoning for doing so.

Thanks for the explanation, it makes sense now. I should have read the post your were responding to. I'll try my best to not have any more old man moments, at least for tonight. Tommorrow , now thats another day!

I guess most people expect Landry to leave after this season. But if he doesn't (maybe the gorgeous Whitney can make a case for him to stay for their senior years), he could probably put OU's passing records out of sight. And for selfish reasons, I'd also love it because it would be cool to see a New Mexico kid make such a rare impact on the QB scene. Most locals still swoon over Jim Everett (Albuquerque Eldorado '81), but I think Landry will wind up being better in the long run.

Ok then I'll give you one out of three. The colorado game during Sam's freshman year was not his best outing, the defensive play was very mediocre that season for OU. The Texas game we should not have lost, again the defensive play was terrible, we had more 1st downs and more total yards than texas, Sams play didn't lose that ballgame, we scored 35 that day and that should have won it period. The florida game was closer than the final score, How many times can you not score in the redzone, plus Sam was hitting the receivers in hands and they had the ball taken away by the DB. One thing almost everybody forgets is Landry's receivers are a lot better than Sam's were, with the exception of Germaine. I don't buy the argument of Landry vs Sam it's not even close IMO.

Your right, but when stats are posted of the Quarterbacks during the stoops era, thats a comparison. Landry has greatly improved since his first start. Like I said in an earlier post he's getting plenty of respect nationally, with the Heisman, and OU will be ranked probably 1st or 2nd, how much more could you ask for. He's played extremely well and improved every game for the most part. This year Landry's surrounded by great players and some of the best receivers in college football, this could be the year.

Yea that was the same Colorado game Sam basically refused to throw ball to MK. I remember how mad MK was and he made it publically known. The Texas game once again 2 picks 10 points for Texas. Florida yea there were some drops, but at the end it's still Sams job to lead his team back. As for Landry having better receivers I'm not buying that his freshman year they were terrible outside RB last year they were better, but his TE play has been average at best. Sam had just as good of receivers and he even had RB as well plus Jermaine Is equal to RB. Nobody is talking head to head, but yea I would take Sam to. However "if" Landry wins a NC and continues to bring his team back from behind I'll take him.