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I don't buy the ESPN Hype

  • Sorry- I think OSU could have won against either opponent. I think the "mighty SEC" has some really crap offenses myself. Alabama and LSU's offenses suck! It's not just the extreme greatness of the defenses IMO. I think their offenses "by and large" stink up the field.

    Top to bottom the SEC just isn't "all that..."

    hooknladder

  • Amen.

    soonerndn

  • hooknladder said...

    Sorry- I think OSU could have won against either opponent. I think the "mighty SEC" has some really crap offenses myself. Alabama and LSU's offenses suck! It's not just the extreme greatness of the defenses IMO. I think their offenses "by and large" stink up the field.

    Top to bottom the SEC just isn't "all that..."

    +1 = It would have been a more entertaining game. I hate the BCS

    allgonzo

  • Ugly offenses, ugly qb's, ugly kicker for bama, etc, etc.

    Sooner07

  • You guys are crazy... Their defenses ARE that good. Georgia has a pretty good defense, a heck of a lot better than OSU, and LSU lit them up. I'd give anything for OU to play D like they do.

    bweslr

  • they would pound OSU defense right up the middle. And Osu would never get a first down let alone score. These guys aren't stanford who osu almost lost too.

    SEC ain't pretty football but it is winning football.

    soonerdaddy

  • Too many people have fallen into the trap of thinking that teams not using spread air attack offenses don't have good offenses.

    There's also plenty of people who don't want the SEC's top teams to be better so they find a reason to fit their preference.

    No reason in the world to think OSU would be able to go toe to toe with either of these teams. Every time the dominant defense of the SEC champ faces a high powered offense from another conference they win. It happens over and over and over again.

    Matteon

  • Sooner07 said...

    Ugly offenses, ugly qb's, ugly kicker for bama, etc, etc.

    There is nothing ugly at all about Bama's offense in this game, ESPECIALLY their QB. McCarron is playing very well. Bama's game plan in the first half was excellent.

    Matteon

  • osu would have got dominated by Lsu

    CCR1

  • CCR1 said...

    osu would have got dominated by Lsu

    It would have looked a lot like the LSU/WVU game only without the mobile QB that WVU has.

    Matteon

  • Who cares about offense when your defenses are that fast sideline to sideline?

    BamaSooner

  • BamaSooner said...

    Who cares about offense when your defenses are that fast sideline to sideline?

    Bama does. They came out with a great game plan. It's working.

    Matteon

  • weedn would have so much pressure on him that he couldn't work up a good spit.

    and they would have abused the osu defense

    nisakat2

  • bweslr said...

    You guys are crazy... Their defenses ARE that good. Georgia has a pretty good defense, a heck of a lot better than OSU, and LSU lit them up. I'd give anything for OU to play D like they do.

    Sorry sir but you are wrong! Georgia does NOT have the offense that OSWho has though and their D is ultra opportunistic, the hurry up would cause substitution problems for them. Georgia finished strong but was not very good early, coach was on the hot seat. LSU OSWho would have been a very entertaining game and Mark my words, with A&M and MIZZOU joining the SEC will have 4 potent offenses that will calm those defensive stats down just like what happened in our conference! Our type of offenses are addictive and IMO a conference killer and will spread like a wild fire through out the SEC, they will soon regret their decision of allowing the contamination.

    oufisherman

  • oufisherman said...

    Sorry sir but you are wrong! Georgia does NOT have the offense that OSWho has though and their D is ultra opportunistic, the hurry up would cause substitution problems for them. Georgia finished strong but was not very good early, coach was on the hot seat. LSU OSWho would have been a very entertaining game and Mark my words, with A&M and MIZZOU joining the SEC will have 4 potent offenses that will calm those defensive stats down just like what happened in our conference! Our type of offenses are addictive and IMO a conference killer and will spread like a wild fire through out the SEC, they will soon regret their decision of allowing the contamination.

    Arkansas runs a Big 12 style offense and they routinely get trounced by the SEC's elite team (which ever team is the elite in any given season). No reason to think that A&M or Mizzou will fare any better.

    Matteon

  • oufisherman said...

    Sorry sir but you are wrong! Georgia does NOT have the offense that OSWho has though and their D is ultra opportunistic, the hurry up would cause substitution problems for them. Georgia finished strong but was not very good early, coach was on the hot seat. LSU OSWho would have been a very entertaining game and Mark my words, with A&M and MIZZOU joining the SEC will have 4 potent offenses that will calm those defensive stats down just like what happened in our conference! Our type of offenses are addictive and IMO a conference killer and will spread like a wild fire through out the SEC, they will soon regret their decision of allowing the contamination.

    lol.......conference killer....contamination

    so true

    the day ut and ou went that direction parity entered the conference.
    now both regret it

    nisakat2

  • Matteon said...

    Arkansas runs a Big 12 style offense and they routinely get trounced by the SEC's elite team (which ever team is the elite in any given season). No reason to think that A&M or Mizzou will fare any better.

    Ok, but put 4-5 of those offenses in there and it will take it's toll, am I the only one that remembers when we had one or two types of these offenses in our conference and we would crush them one year and then have a let down the next and next thing you know everyone is doing it and getting better and better with every passing year doing it! And the next thing you know you are changing up how you recruit so you can some how defend against them better but flounder against the really good power running teams outside your conference. My point is that their conference is about to change. Defending these offenses twice a year is a whole different thing when every other team you play can score 50 in a hurry. We played the same kinda ball here and realized that it would not work the whole season. Oh, Arkansas after all of these years is about to do some damage in the SEC.

    oufisherman

  • oufisherman said...

    And the next thing you know you are changing up how you recruit so you can some how defend against them better but flounder against the really good power running teams outside your conference.

    Not going to happen. They defend against them quite well as it is. The key to stopping Big 12 offenses is by winning on the line of scrimmage. No need for them to change their recruiting to do that.

    Matteon

  • No doubt about it! Hell most of us fans regret it, it has made us a weak conference in the eyes of the purists. Had we won against LSU and Florida like should have happened you would be seeing more of this offense being played in the south but that is on us. We need to get back to the powerful line play that we had early in the last decade.

    oufisherman

  • hooknladder said...

    Sorry- I think OSU could have won against either opponent. I think the "mighty SEC" has some really crap offenses myself. Alabama and LSU's offenses suck! It's not just the extreme greatness of the defenses IMO. I think their offenses "by and large" stink up the field.

    Top to bottom the SEC just isn't "all that..."

    That is my point. I healthy OU Sooners team which started the season and (with Box) would destroy either team. I am not refering to the depleated OU team toward the end of the season. OSU would also have beaten either team handily!

    "I'm going to stay at Texas until they fire me" - Will Muschamp

    boomer8

  • Matteon said...

    Not going to happen. They defend against them quite well as it is. The key to stopping Big 12 offenses is by winning on the line of scrimmage. No need for them to change their recruiting to do that.

    They do NOT have to play these types of offenses every game! It takes it's toll! They do not have to worry about attrition of their linemen! They get a break from it and yes they are on a good roll but it will not last nothing ever does. I am watching the game and see good D but horrible offense, mistakes on LSU's behalf and several have posted about the good QB play but I have not seen that.

    oufisherman

  • oufisherman said...

    They do NOT have to play these types of offenses every game! It takes it's toll! They do not have to worry about attrition of their linemen! They get a break from it and yes they are on a good roll but it will not last nothing ever does. I am watching the game and see good D but horrible offense, mistakes on LSU's behalf and several have posted about the good QB play but I have not seen that.

    How exactly do they "not" have to worry about attrition of their linemen?

    As far as taking a toll is concerned, playing an offense like Bama's takes a much bigger toll on a defense than playing an offense like Missouri or TA&M. It's not even close.

    Matteon

  • Matteon said...

    Not going to happen. They defend against them quite well as it is. The key to stopping Big 12 offenses is by winning on the line of scrimmage. No need for them to change their recruiting to do that.

    I am not trying to argue with you and agree with most of your posts but I have watched a lot of SEC games and feel if they had to face 90 to 100 offensive plays every game the love fest would be short lived, we got sucked down that same well.

    oufisherman

  • oufisherman said...

    several have posted about the good QB play but I have not seen that.

    McCarron is playing a really good game. If you are not seeing good QB play from him you either are not watching or don't know what good QB play is.

    Matteon

  • oufisherman said...

    Sorry sir but you are wrong! Georgia does NOT have the offense that OSWho has though and their D is ultra opportunistic, the hurry up would cause substitution problems for them. Georgia finished strong but was not very good early, coach was on the hot seat. LSU OSWho would have been a very entertaining game and Mark my words, with A&M and MIZZOU joining the SEC will have 4 potent offenses that will calm those defensive stats down just like what happened in our conference! Our type of offenses are addictive and IMO a conference killer and will spread like a wild fire through out the SEC, they will soon regret their decision of allowing the contamination.

    I agree that Georgia doesn't have near the offense OSU has, and never once said that. But to think OSU is going to put up a bunch of points on these two defense is just foolish. There's a reason why the SEC has won 6 straight titles - stout lines, a good running game, and great defenses.

    bweslr