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How about those Horns...They decided to stay out of the draft?

  • Someone must have forgotten to mention that none of the great Texas players have gotten their named called this year. Not sure how a team that gets everyone that they want every year can go 3 rounds in any draft and not have a single player called. This has to say something about a coaching staff that has been all over the place during the past 5 years.

    Keenan Robinson 4*-5*
    Emmanuel Acho
    Kheeston Randall 4*
    David Snow 4*
    Cody Johnson #1 RB in 07 4*-5*
    Foswhitt Whittaker 4* 6 rated RB 07
    Blake Gideon
    Christian Scott 4* top 10 DB

    Now think of all the top "star" players that have transferred.

    Well boys and girls, The way Texas takes all those 4* & 5* players and turns them into 6-7 rd. (free agents) draft picks is uncanny.

    Love to see OUr good guys coached up and paid up. This needs to be sent out to all the Texas recruits.

    This post was edited by lifesooner on 4/27/2012 at 10:56 PM

    lifesooner

  • You are absolutely right. What the heck are those kids thinking, or are they not thinking.

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  • lifesooner said...

    Someone must have forgotten to mention that none of the great Texas players have gotten their named called this year. Not sure how a team that gets everyone that they want every year can go 3 rounds in any draft and not have a single player called. This has to say something about a coaching staff that has been all over the place during the past 5 years.

    Keenan Robinson 4*-5* Emmanuel Acho Kheeston Randall 4* David Snow 4* Cody Johnson #1 RB in 07 4*-5* Foswhitt Whittaker 4* 6 rated RB 07 Blake Gideon Christian Scott 4* top 10 DB

    Now think of all the top "star" players that have transferred.

    Well boys and girls, The way Texas takes all those 4* & 5* players and turns them into 6-7 rd. (free agents) draft picks is uncanny.

    Love to see OUr good guys coached up and paid up. This needs to be sent out to all the Texas recruits.

    Normally I would agree and jump all over the horns. While I find it hilarious that they have yet to have a player selected, I am much more concerned about the Sooners supposed talent level. OSU/Baylor each had two first rounders. Illinois had 4 players taken, before the first OU player was gone. Alabama had 5 players taken in the 1st two rounds.

    For all the elite talent that OU brings in every year, this is an alarming draft.

    Go Sooners! 7 - Time National Champions! 7 - Time Big XII Champions!

    bigsooner

  • bigsooner said...

    Normally I would agree and jump all over the horns. While I find it hilarious that they have yet to have a player selected, I am much more concerned about the Sooners supposed talent level. OSU/Baylor each had two first rounders. Illinois had 4 players taken, before the first OU player was gone. Alabama had 5 players taken in the 1st two rounds.

    For all the elite talent that OU brings in every year, this is an alarming draft.

    Didn't Barry Sanders and Hart Lee Dykes get drafted in the first round in the same year. A broken clock is right twice a day. We will see this season if Okie St is a team that can reload or do they start from scratch.

    This post was edited by 3000A on 4/30/2012 at 12:29 PM

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  • Not to be a wet blanket but I believe there are more whornes in the NFL than Sooners currently.

    Bullsprig

  • bigsooner said...

    Normally I would agree and jump all over the horns. While I find it hilarious that they have yet to have a player selected, I am much more concerned about the Sooners supposed talent level. OSU/Baylor each had two first rounders. Illinois had 4 players taken, before the first OU player was gone. Alabama had 5 players taken in the 1st two rounds.

    For all the elite talent that OU brings in every year, this is an alarming draft.

    I'm not concerned simply because going into this year, I thought Broyles and T Lewis would be our only high round draft guys. Neither played out the way I anticipated. With Landry not coming out, I saw this as kind of an off year for us. Consider the next 2 or 3 drafts, we should be well represented.

    With recruiting classes of 20-25 and we're getting 5-7 guys drafted each year, plus some free agent try outs.. Not Too Shabby.

    Come to OU and you have a 33% chance of being drafted or getting an NFL tryout. Based on what I am seeing, the NFL has respect for kids coming out of OU, probably because of work ethic, not so much with Texas. It takes a lot more than just talent to make it in the NFL.

    Sprig, you're right, Texas has more guys in the NFL, but that will change quickly if they don't get it turned around in Austin. 6th Street is great for recruiting, but not so great for performance.

    NCJIM

  • bigsooner said...

    Normally I would agree and jump all over the horns. While I find it hilarious that they have yet to have a player selected, I am much more concerned about the Sooners supposed talent level. OSU/Baylor each had two first rounders. Illinois had 4 players taken, before the first OU player was gone. Alabama had 5 players taken in the 1st two rounds.

    For all the elite talent that OU brings in every year, this is an alarming draft.

    Regarding recruiting talent, I disagree a little. While OU always gets very good talent, I would argue that we recruit good talent on average and develop them into great College players. Bradford, Broyles, Strait, Clayton, and several offensive lineman. Now we have had our share of great players/recruits like Peterson, Tommy Harris, etc. But overall, I think OU recruits at a level down from traditional recruiting schools like Florida, Florida ST, Alabama, USC, Michigan, Ohio ST and Texas. those schools have kids in their backyard every year, so they have 10-15 kids in their pocket and cherry pick the rest. We have to work a little harder at the recruitment game due to geography and playing in a conference that kids have less of an alliance with in their own back yard versus the SEC, Big 10. Regarding kids like Griffin at Baylor and the Illinois kids, every school gets a Cherry or two every now and then but are not consistent. OU is very consistent under Stoops in recruiting and development.

    I definitely agree we do not get as many top recruits as the other top 10 schools. OU is about winning championships as long as we do that, the right kids will come, when winning stops, we will have true recruiting issues.

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  • oukid said...

    Regarding recruiting talent, I disagree a little. While OU always gets very good talent, I would argue that we recruit good talent on average and develop them into great College players. Bradford, Broyles, Strait, Clayton, and several offensive lineman. Now we have had our share of great players/recruits like Peterson, Tommy Harris, etc. But overall, I think OU recruits at a level down from traditional recruiting schools like Florida, Florida ST, Alabama, USC, Michigan, Ohio ST and Texas. those schools have kids in their backyard every year, so they have 10-15 kids in their pocket and cherry pick the rest. We have to work a little harder at the recruitment game due to geography and playing in a conference that kids have less of an alliance with in their own back yard versus the SEC, Big 10. Regarding kids like Griffin at Baylor and the Illinois kids, every school gets a Cherry or two every now and then but are not consistent. OU is very consistent under Stoops in recruiting and development.

    I definitely agree we do not get as many top recruits as the other top 10 schools. OU is about winning championships as long as we do that, the right kids will come, when winning stops, we will have true recruiting issues.

    I totally agree...great post.

    We are a very good recruiting team but we don't have the obviously huge advantage as Texas and Bama. We are not a concensus top 3 recruiting team like the other two. Now Bama has obviously done well but not any better than we did in 08.

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    lifesooner

  • While it is true that the Horns haven't had a good draft, they typically do and have more NFL players thatn we do. So until we exceed UT with players "in" the NFL and with players that "actually play" in the NFL, I will keep my mouth shut.

    I do like that they are struggling and hope it becomes a trend. We will win some more of the head to head battles with their elite playes if that becomes the norm. Let's see how the next two drafts go and a true trend can be formed...watch what happens then.

    albsooner

  • Remember too that some of those rankings are assigned by Texas based scouts, and or folks with a UT lean.

    It would be the same if we at OUInsider were 'ranking' recruits. James and I could be tempted to cook the books a bit and throw out an extra star or two when a recruit is OU bound.

    Obviously, we'll never get that opportunity, so our integrity remains, (for the most part), intact.

    I'va always said, let the coaches rank.

    Name the top ten most successful college staffs* in the country. Look at who they offer. Those ARE the top players, as decided by real experts, not wanna-be coaches that all have a bias towards (or away from), some team, many who have never even played football outside of video games.

    AH OUInsider

    *For example: To get a good regional cross section, let's take Alabama, LSU, Michigan, Ohio State, OU, Oregon, Stanford, Texas, USC & VaTech. List all of the offers of theses schools, and note the prospects that most frequently appear, and I'll bet you'll have a pretty accurate list of the best players in the country.

    Any one staff can misjudge, but you put the results from all of these staffs on a list and it would be pretty hard to argue with it.

    Alan H

  • Lots of good points in this thread, BUT you do have to say it's rather remarkable that neither UT, nor OU have a single player in the 1st round. With all the top 5 classes Uterus has I think it does speak volumes.

    hooknladder

  • hooknladder said...

    Lots of good points in this thread, BUT you do have to say it's rather remarkable that neither UT, nor OU have a single player in the 1st round. With all the top 5 classes Uterus has I think it does speak volumes.

    Good point. Parity...it is here along with the fact that both OU and UT have been down a bit.

    albsooner

  • Speaking of Parity check this out: "Linebacker Nigel Bradham became the first Florida State player chosen, going 105 overall to Buffalo. College powers Texas and Florida had yet to see one of its players selected."

    hooknladder

  • hooknladder said...

    Lots of good points in this thread, BUT you do have to say it's rather remarkable that neither UT, nor OU have a single player in the 1st round. With all the top 5 classes Uterus has I think it does speak volumes.

    True...Although IF L. Jones had come out this year he probably would have been a top 10 pick which would make us look much stronger in the draft. Top 10 a couple solid 2 rd. picks and Flemming 3rd.

    This post was edited by lifesooner on 4/28/2012 at 1:10 PM

    lifesooner

  • Bullsprig said...

    Not to be a wet blanket but I believe there are more whornes in the NFL than Sooners currently.

    We can always count on bullsprig to take up for his horns.

    Think Ash can carry the Horns this year? What if he is bad again? That will mean that there is little hope from him and UT for the next 3 years.

    Should be interesting.

    This post was edited by Deep Red on 4/28/2012 at 5:04 PM

    Deep Red

  • lifesooner said...

    Someone must have forgotten to mention that none of the great Texas players have gotten their named called this year. Not sure how a team that gets everyone that they want every year can go 3 rounds in any draft and not have a single player called. This has to say something about a coaching staff that has been all over the place during the past 5 years.

    Keenan Robinson 4*-5*
    Emmanuel Acho
    Kheeston Randall 4*
    David Snow 4*
    Cody Johnson #1 RB in 07 4*-5*
    Foswhitt Whittaker 4* 6 rated RB 07
    Blake Gideon
    Christian Scott 4* top 10 DB

    Now think of all the top "star" players that have transferred.

    Well boys and girls, The way Texas takes all those 4* & 5* players and turns them into 6-7 rd. (free agents) draft picks is uncanny.

    Love to see OUr good guys coached up and paid up. This needs to be sent out to all the Texas recruits.

    Yep! Do you know how much hard work is involved on the coaches behalf to turn all those 5 star athletes to no star arena league players? It is a 24/7 job...lol

    oufisherman

  • 3000 said...

    Didn't Barry Sanders and Hart Lee Dykes get drafted in the first round in the same year. A broken clock is right twice a day. We will see this season if Okie St is a team that can reloads or do they start from scratch.

    It's more than just Okie Lite. Boise St had one or two drafted in the first, like I said Illinois has FOUR players drafted before a Sooner was drafted.

    Like I said, it was funny that Texas had none drafted early. OU is 5-15 in recruiting every year, I'm just stating for OU this wasn't a great year in the draft.

    Go Sooners! 7 - Time National Champions! 7 - Time Big XII Champions!

    bigsooner

  • bigsooner said...

    It's more than just Okie Lite. Boise St had one or two drafted in the first, like I said Illinois has FOUR players drafted before a Sooner was drafted.

    Like I said, it was funny that Texas had none drafted early. OU is 5-15 in recruiting every year, I'm just stating for OU this wasn't a great year in the draft.

    The rash of injuries causing the year end season let down had a little to do with this, Broyles would have been mid first round and Lewis was never the same after the broken toe, R. Lewis would have been a first rounder had he been able to complete another year at OU. I cannot figure out why Alexander went as late as he did.

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  • Bullsprig said...

    Not to be a wet blanket but I believe there are more whornes in the NFL than Sooners currently.

    There you go bullsprig. There's your post you asked for. Now, answer those questions about your pitiful QB.

    Deep Red

  • College success depends on alot of things and talent is just one of them. Depth is another. Football is the ultimate TEAM game. There are 22 starters and then special teamers and then kickers and then dime package 5 wr sets that bring othyer players onto the field. All of these players can have an impact on the game good or bad. Illinois having 4 or 5 drafted still doesn't mean they were overall more talented than their opponents just at 4 out of 35 players that could impact the game.

    tyresooner

  • 3 horns were picked up in the last round...

    http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/three-longhorns-picked-on-drafts-last-day-2330840.html

    Three Longhorns picked on draft's last day

    Robinson is 1st UT player to go, followed by Acho and Randall.

    The long wait for the Texas Longhorns in the NFL draft finally ended Saturday when three players heard their names called.

    Linebacker Keenan Robinson went first, picked by the Washington Redskins in the fourth round, the 119th overall selection. More than four hours later, linebacker Emmanuel Acho was chosen by the Cleveland Browns in the sixth round, the 204th player off the board.

    Defensive tackle Kheeston Randall, projected to be the first Longhorn picked, waited all the way to the seventh round, when he was taken by the Miami Dolphins.

    It's only the second time since 1990 that no Horns went in the first three rounds.

    Robinson - 6 feet, 3 inches and 243 pounds - will be reunited with Texas ex Brian Orakpo in D.C. Linebacker is a strength of the Skins, so Robinson, who made 105 tackles last year and was second-team All-Big 12, can be worked in slowly.

    Acho, All-Big 12 as a senior after 131 tackles and 19 for losses, could back up middle linebacker D'Qwell Jackson in Cleveland, and Randall, a second-team All-Big 12 choice, hopes to catch on as a run-plugger in Miami.

    Justin Tucker, Texas' trusty kicker, signed as a free agent with Baltimore, and safety Blake Gideon signed with Arizona. Other UT free agents include halfback Fozzy Whittaker and fullback Cody Johnson.

    This post was edited by Pressbox on 4/29/2012 at 1:46 PM

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