OUInsider - Owen Field

These are the kind of stupid posts I'm talking about.

If he LJ "consistently' threw bad balls HE WOULDN'T BE STARTING! Nor would he be hitting over 60% of his passes, nor would he have over 12,000 passing yards, 62% completion rate, 308 yd per game passing average, 93 TDs, or my personal favorite long balls that he's thrown in the face of people who claim he doesn't throw the long ball (Jones to Stills at FSU anyone, anyone??)

And then you trolls say look at the stats and then you deny them when they're staring you in the face. Take a look at the difference in 2011 and 2010 in yards per game - 6 yards difference. I submit that had Bell not been bulldozing TD's Jones would have done as well in 2011 as 2010. Stare at the stats for a while and notice he played 1 less game in 2011 because we lost a conference game - the championship game. Jones has been exceptional.

--------------------Gm----eff---comp--att-int---%ag-yds--tds-lng-avg/game
Jones, 2011-----13 141.56 355-562-15 63.2 4463 29 64 343.3
2010--------------14 146.31 405-617-12 65.6 4718 38 86 337.0
2009--------------13 130.83 261-449-14 58.1 3198 26 67 246.0

The stats speak for themselves.

09 - Bradford got hurt behind an inexperienced O Line that LJ played behind all year and Gresham never played a down that year and in an abbreviated season LJ was number 2 on TDs for a Freshman tied with Colt McCoy at 29 and 7 behind Bradford from his Freshman year in 2007 when in 2007 Bradford had arguably one of best receiving corps in OU history:
Iglesias, Kelly, Gresham, Johnson, Manuel,Finley, Murray, DeMarco, Brown, Chris, Patrick, Allen, Chaney, Quentin - Now that is in order of receptions and Chaney a true receiver is behind 3 running backs. Wouldn't someone as good as Quentin be good to have right now sitting in the 10 spot???

Now I'll never take off my Crimson Glass but a lot of you need to take off your fecal colored glasses and get your heads out of your axx and quit taking on our players. Because you don't know squat.

Hey anti LJ bigot here are the facts:

Last game of season OSU - no TD passes
Next to last game of season ISU - no TD passes
3rd game to end Baylor - no TD passes but 447 yards on 36 of 51 performance but did put Bell on the goal line for 4 TD runs. Like coach stoops said, Landry got OU down there.
4th game to the end A&M - LJ 2 TD passes

So that means LJ did not throw a TD pass in the Last 3 regular season games NOT 5 - When you either outright LIE or don't take the time to check the stats which is easy to do on Sooner Sports website, it makes you look like the uninformed, foolish person you are. And to not check the stats before you spout is just plain stupid because it makes you say stuff that is flat out wrong and makes you bigoted and lazy.

To complete this rant -

Now IOWA in the Bowl game. LJ threw 1 TD pass.

The way I see that it isn't, wasn't and never was the last 5 games so you are officially ignorant!

Bell was the MVP of the IOWA game because he ran in 3 TDs and like Stoops said LJ got the team down there.

It's not my opinion, it's the coach's opinion and it's supported by the facts and the stats. To remove your head from you axx grab your shoulders and pull down and then to clean your crap colored glasses use some Clorox or Baby Wipes.

Thank you BYLRK for the nice opportunity inform you and allowing me to make the time to educate one's self especially when the facts are so easy to come by.

Is it a coincidence that BYLRK and TROLL have the same number of letters?

All you did was prove my point that he was terrible the last 5 games.

I read all of the same articles you have and never did LJ say, Huepel say or ESPN say LJ went to FIX his mechanics. He went to work on them, primarily his footwork in the pocket. Even the QB guru said there wasn't much to correct in Landry's throwing motion but mostly work moving around in the pocket and different launch points. ESPN had a real nice tape of the Guru as you call him throwing bean bags to spots where LJ should go to throw the ball. The ESPN talking heads all say LJ can make all the throws so who knows. I don't, they don't really and you and BiilyArk certainly don't. Like I said I really think you guys have serious man hate for the lad LJ and are frankly stupid - simple as that.

More importantly the NFL evalutated LJ as the number 3 QB this year if he had come out and likely number 1 next year depending on the year that he or Barkley have this year. So what you experts are telling us is that all of the NFL evaluators are nuts and you have the true insight or the LJ haters in Sooner land know more than the NFL scouts. Sure you do!

Did he work on his mechanics? Yes. Did he improve them? By all accounts yes but we won't know until September.

Your logic is so twisted and your unhidden hatred so deep I feel truly sorry for you.

Boomer Sooner baby!

Jones wasnt helped at all by our WRs after Broyles went down.

Or how about when he did hit the receivers in their hands and they dropped the pass? I still believe the losses last year were more because of our defense than our offense.

Bob that's what I meant. LJ wasn't successful because "it wasn't because he wasn't hitting his recievers in their hands because he was" and that is the QB's job, Some of his passes he couldn't have put them in his recievers hands any better than if he had handed it to them.

I think there should be another stat for receivers called muffs that when they get both hands on the ball and don't catch it it should be counted against the receiver not the QB. WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY. When a receiver deflects a call the progrnositcators say he should have caught, any interception should also be charged against the receiver.

Now you're going to have the trolls pop up now and ask how many passes did LJ get caught that were too far in front, too far behind or too high and they made a great catch and saved him (they always do). Well that's the fricking receiver's job! And so say the ball was too long, too short, too high or too anything for the ball still to be caught is asinine because if it was too high, too long or too short the ball wouldn't have been caught in the 1st place because it would have been too something to have been caught to follow troll logic. But trolls can't see that for the fecal mess on their lenses. (Oh Alan, if these folks can call us pumpers who wear crimson colored glasses, we should be able to call them haters with fecal covered glasses!)

I'm going to leave this post with these insights (have zero value because no advertising paid for them and they are mine and mine alone - disclaimer) -

1. Great recievers bail out good quarterbacks all the time and a good quarterback makes good recievers look great.
2. For some of the dimwits (sorry Alan - don't mean you though) who post here, it's all about the receivers bailing out Landry and not Landry putting the ball where the reciever has an opportunity to catch it and make a great looking catch.
3. For the flickering bulb who quoted the ESPN "expert" on LJ's throwing motion, really, you do that - quote ESPN? Pay close attention to any ESPN analysis and you have one paid talking head say something good about a player and another paid talking head saying something opposite that in their opinion needs to be corrected. That's what they do and are paid to do. And the particular analysis, if it's the same one I saw (only one which they've played multiple times) highlighted 2 throws of the 1,628 passes LJ has thrown since 2009 (OU Official Stat), again really? One they try to show that LJ's shoulders are not parallel to the ground without showing how far the ball is going to the reciever; any elementrary physics student knows that if you're going to throw the ball a long way you have to change the trajectory, just like bullets and artillery rounds you must change the launch point or add more powder. The longer the throw the higher the trajectory or the line between the shoulders and the ground dipping to increase the arc. In the next example, the ESPN expert shows LJ with his shoulders parallel to the ground and then a completed pass on a short route without any comment on the distances between the two throws. So, someone is going to cite ESPN with that kind of an analysis on two passes over a 3 year career and 1,628 passes or .12% of all his passes??? Really, they're doing that? The ESPN experts can do that exact same analysis on every QB in the history of the game that ever threw a pass!
4. Trusting your own eyes and reading the official stats can blind one to the unseen truth only ESPN prognosticators and their minions can see.
5. I am lost!

Fact is he was terrible the last 4 games!

1Td and 6 INT..

I don't care how big of a homer you are. You are clueless if you don't agree with it!

Bell was put in because of our lack of success in the red zone. That is a fact! Your knowledge of the game is embarrassing. Using chemalum77 logic...Texas had an impressive season. Dude please don't post anymore.

And the lack of scoring in the red zone was LJ's fault? Things tighten up down there which makes it harder to throw anyway but you being a football savant you know that, kick in no run game to speak of (you're correct the reason the Bell package came in was to help in short yardage situations both 3rd down attempts and goal line because OU's coaches under no circumstances do they want LJ running the ball because the offense goes through LJ) that makes it very easy to defend against the pass - run fake or play action is ignored. Take away the run defend the pass well in most cases it was really easy to take away the run game from OU after Whaley went down making it easy to defend the pass - do you ever listen to any coaches talk about this very basic principle of football. It's not worth reliving the whole season because you my dear friend saw exaclty what you wanted to see and see no correlation between the loss of Whaley to run game and the loss of Broyles to the pass game all the deficiences fall the LJ in your eyes. Like I said I feel sorry for you because you're going to have to watch LJ play for 13 more games.

So you're now blaming our short yardage inability to run the ball on LJ and not the an O-line that had difficulty blocking at times and the running backs carrying the ball? Really? I'd say 99% of the people on this board have at least demonstrated they have fundamentally more sound knowledge of the game football than you do! Seriously - red zone success all LJ's fault that's a scream next thing you'll be blaming him for the tornado that came through Norman. How do you sleep at night?

No, UT hasn't been very good - know why? Quaterback play. We won the last two games against Texas because of it!

And no, I think I'll keep posting because I like to goof on non-fans and OU player haters like you.

Clueless

First I NEVER said that LJ wasn't a good QB. I NEVER said he was incapable or a loser or anything like that. What I did say is that at the end of the year his mechanics were off. Oh and I didn't need espn to come out with their report. I've coached QB's and know when a guy is carrying the ball to low instead of keeping it up near his chest so he doesn't have to loop it. I can tell when a QB isn't planting his feet and stepping into the throw as the ball tends to sail high or he doesn't get enough zip on the ball.

All I was talking about was the fact that he needed to go work on that and he did and for that you called me stupid.

As for your opinions being based on facts they are based on your love for OU which isn't a bad thing but there is no logic to them at all. If someone has the gall to say that a certain player needs to work on something you spew your silliness and name calling saying we must be aggies. I've been an OU fan since 1970! Thats 42 years of great times and blake times. I pull for every player to do well. I support my school with what little money I've got left on a fixed income and then I have to put up with fans like you who say I should go pull for the whorns. Why don't you save your insults for the fans of other teams.

OUManiac

As far as LJ's numbers go, what does everyone expect from a 4 yr starter in an offense predicated on throwing the ball 35-40 times/gm? He isn't the 2nd coming. He is talented without a doubt,but plz take off the sooner glasses. We have a much bigger picture to look at. We need a better defense and running game in order 2 give LJ an opportunity to lead this team in the way most of us expect him too. He does have to develop more mental toughness but what collegiate QB doesn't? I look for a better outcome for this team this yr but a NC is really far off. I am not as thrilled with a few of our offensive coaches and I believe that we will continue to have short commings until Bob addresses those issues. However with luck we can turn that number 5 ranking into something special. Boomer Sooner.