OUInsider - Owen Field

A 16 team conference would be unwieldy, IMO. Plus, what happens when OU has to play ND, FSU, Tex, Miami, and WVU in a given year when Tex gets to play OU, ISU, KU, Tech, and OSU? In other words, I think the balance of schedules gets very uneven when you have more than 12 teams. Look at Georgia - they don't have to play Bama, LSU or Arkansas this year, but does S. Carolina? That would be a huge advantage for Georgia in their conference standings.

I like getting back to 12 - add two who add value and would increase the payout per member school. FSU, ND or Miami would all fill that requirement.

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I want to get to 14 by adding VT, Pitt, Clemson and FSU.

Twelve teams is plenty- hence still the Big 12. Take FSU, WVU, Clemson and TCU and we're done. Extremely strong conference!!!

Maybe the fans should start an email campaign focused on the Big 12 offices and Presidents? I think we should strike while the iron's hot! JMHO

Whether we like it or not, college football appears to be headed toward four 16-team superconferences that will control the college football playoffs.

Would you rather be the first superconference and invite who you want, or one of the others and scramble to take who's left?

My shopping list: Notre Dame, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, Florida State, and Miami. You pick first, and all these teams are available. Wait and let some other conference like the SEC pick first and it's only some of these, the Louisvilles and Boises. No thanks. I want my conference to have the first shot.

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Adding two schools to get back to the original twelve members makes perfectly good sense to me. FSU is my first choice. Clemson, VT, GT, Pitt and Louisville would be among the second school I'd pick, with none of them holding a clear-cut edge.

I just can't wrap my head around the idea of bringing in ND and Miami; two schools I have hated with a passion for as long as I can remember. The Big 12 already has the most arrogant basketball fans in the Jayhawks. Why would we want to invite the most arrogant football fans to join the Big 12 family? That's especially true of the Irish. Anyone who doesn't think that Notre Dame would be as demanding as Texas, maybe more so, better think again. Revenue and prestige aside, we're better off without them!

I don't see the hype around GT. What do they bring to the table? I'd rather have Louisville over GT.

Expand to 12 teams and stay at that. Add Florida State and one other. Personally, I would rather get Georgia Tech, then Clemson. Ideally, you would add FSU, then call Arkansas one more time and try to get them. Clemson doesn't do much for me.

Being we weren’t in the computer age at the time you didn’t see as much of it in print but I would bet some of the arguments we are hearing now are the same we heard when talk first started about going from the Big-8 to the Big-12. Then after all was said and done the Big-12 worked alright for a number of years. Sure we had some rough spots here and there but the sky didn’t fall in on us like some were saying would happen.

The writing is on the wall about this and it looks like the way it’s going to shake out is going to be four supper conferences. We can either lead the way or we can take whatever is left over after other conferences cherry pick the landscape. As for ND and Miami the only folks I don’t hear talking about these two schools are ND and Miami. I really don’t think either have much interest in joining us in the Big-12. My money would be on Miami looking for an invite to the SEC and if they go anywhere I think ND would be in the Big-10. I think we should approach them on a feasibility search but in the end I don’t really think we will ever be in a conference with those two schools.

We can agree to disagree because I don't think Saban could turn GT into a premier football program. I don't see the similarities between OU and GT because OU had been a national power for 40 years prior to the 90s. I'll give you the Atlanta market though but that's still an SEC city and state. The SEC headquarters are in ATL.

If Notre Dame wanted to get into the Big 12 they can't move football until their current TV contract runs out. So if Big 12/DeBoss Dodds agrees to bring in their olympic sports now it will be in hopes that football follows in a few years.

GaTech probably will continue to be a middle of the pac program but Atlanta will always be a huge TV market that would be very valuable for TV contract negotiations now and in the future.....Louisville does not bring that.

16 teams unwieldy...no. The BCS and Bowl system as we now know it is what's unwieldy. The Big 12 suddenly finds itself in a position of strength and now is not the time to go conservative. Get as many teams as possible that add value to the conference because after this next round of expansion there won't be many teams left in play that will help any conference.

Now is the time for win/win for the Big 12. Every team of value we bring in now damages some other conference. We get stronger they have less options.