MDS00NER said...
The problem with your "double entendre" idea is that in its very definition (and using the idea of double entendre to enforce politically correct positions) requires that you make an assumption of the author's original intent, and therein lies the problem. In a country that values free speech, this extra step of assumption is dangerous. There are not many racial slurs that are so perfectly innocent when used in other contexts, I stand by what I said earlier, this was perfectly used both the word AND the phrase. Firing the guy for this is unfortunate and severe.
MDS00NER said...
This story is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in a long while. While "Chink" is a slang word for "Chinaman" it is also a common word in the English language:
chink1 /tʃɪŋk/ Show Spelled[chingk] Show IPA noun 1. a crack, cleft, or fissure: a chink in a wall. 2. a narrow opening: a chink between two buildings.
It was PERFECT usage of the word and very descriptive. NOT only this, the phrase is a popular colloquialism, also used in perfect context. This is a perfect example of how Political correctness and over-sensitivity has gotten out of hand. And now they are going to investigate and look for punitive action... next step... Thought Police.
This post was edited by Steady on 2/20/2012 at 5:05 PM
Steady said...
As a society we have - in my opinion - gotten WAY too sensitive about words, to the point where use of certain words triggers harsh responses, regardless of the actual definition. Pity, for instance, a politician who - quite properly - uses a word that means:
"Grudging and petty in giving or spending"
I have seen what happens and the result isn't pretty.
Racism is ugly in any form, but it shouldn't be invented or inferred where it doesn't exist.
This post was edited by sooner1 on 2/20/2012 at 8:36 PM
MDS00NER said...
This story is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of in a long while. While "Chink" is a slang word for "Chinaman" it is also a common word in the English language:
chink1 /tʃɪŋk/ Show Spelled[chingk] Show IPA noun 1. a crack, cleft, or fissure: a chink in a wall. 2. a narrow opening: a chink between two buildings.
It was PERFECT usage of the word and very descriptive. NOT only this, the phrase is a popular colloquialism, also used in perfect context. This is a perfect example of how Political correctness and over-sensitivity has gotten out of hand. And now they are going to investigate and look for punitive action... next step... Thought Police.
ChitownSooner said...
The funniest part about this whole thread is that nobody has even brought up the fact that the person trying to say that Chink was properly used, so it was totally appropriate, also refers to the Chinese as "Chinaman".
The arguments on this subject are futile. If you don't see the poor taste exhibited by ESPN, then nothing that is said on a message board is going to enlighten you. The free speech arguments are also inappropriate. Free speech doesn't mean that you can embarrass your employer by making racially insensitive remarks without getting fired. By the way - don't read what someone wrote, then attack them for being intolerant by using the free speech argument - I think that anyone would be able to see the hypocrisy in that.
ChitownSooner said...
The funniest part about this whole thread is that nobody has even brought up the fact that the person trying to say that Chink was properly used, so it was totally appropriate, also refers to the Chinese as "Chinaman".
The arguments on this subject are futile. If you don't see the poor taste exhibited by ESPN, then nothing that is said on a message board is going to enlighten you. The free speech arguments are also inappropriate. Free speech doesn't mean that you can embarrass your employer by making racially insensitive remarks without getting fired. By the way - don't read what someone wrote, then attack them for being intolerant by using the free speech argument - I think that anyone would be able to see the hypocrisy in that.
MDS00NER said...
Unfortunately, I (and others here) was not aware "Chinaman" was also apparently taboo as well.... but frankly this makes my point as well. The fact that one has to spend so much time parsing their words so as not to inadvertantly offend some group has gotten out of hand. This country is entirely to focused on groupism and protecting the sensibilities of groups, which in and of itself is contrary to beliefs that it was founded on. Hate crimes are a perfect example, how is killing someone or assaulting them any more a crime because it is perpetrated against someone who is in a now "protected group". Why is beating up and raping a protected group individual somehow more heinous than the same thing being done to an individual not in a protected group? Its insane. They are both serious crimes and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
All of this "groupism" is fracturing this country, not bringing it together... IF our goal is for this country to be race blind, color blind etc, how is this accomplished by focusing so much attention into separating us in groups, especially with politicians choosing to use these differences to gain political favor.
I have not labeled or called anyone any names here and I'm not going to, in fact I have a history of trying to moderate this kind of thing, unfortunately I cannot say the same for some of you, just because I hold a different view it has been inferred that I am a racist
As for the hypocrisy statement, look back closely, I did not attack anyone for what they wrote UNTIL they used their free speech to attack me by attempting to label me. My first post was in response to the news story, which I felt was ridiculous.This post was edited by bigeasysooner on 2/22/2012 at 1:57 AM
jollywOUd said...
How many on this board are offended by the term "Okie"? Not me. I answer with pride. The NCAA wants FSU to change from the Seminole name for offending the tribe, the spokesperson for the tribe said they were proud to have their name used by the university. Lin was not bothered by the "Chink" term.
Most often the people crying "racism, or offensive language" are not even the target of the statements. To be so easily offended shows a lack of pride in ones own race
The thought police of this country are creating a absurd situation for anyone in the public eye to live up to.This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by sooner1 on 2/22/2012 at 1:24 PM
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