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Hudson310 said...
Once again, who said anything about not supporting him? I certainly didn't. I'll adjust...maybe not a crappy job overall, but at the very least a crappy job as it pertains to the OSU game. You'll never convince me that our coaching staff did a good job that week.
And loyalty? That's rich. He had many reasons for staying at OU over the years, but loyalty to the fans is certainly not near the top of the list. Bob Stoops is just like everyone else...looking out for number one. He's stayed here because he felt like it was the best thing for him, not because of loyalty.
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Was! For about a half a season, things change and stuff happens but I think we will stand pat with Stoops if that is ok! Coach speak is fine and I have no problem with it, too many stupid questions are asked at the interviews with Bob and do not blame him for the sarcasm. Oh, and I think I heard it worded that "this team has a chance to be special" and they all do really so no lies there. Hope he says the same thing every year from here on out.
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I'm sorry but to hell with the coach speak. I am also tired of Bob acting like the press are so far beneath him. He could get away with that when he was big game Bob but not so much now. Oh and I don't think EVERY team has a chance to be special. There are years when we have weaknesses & to sit and tell everyone that things will be great when they aren't only tends to make some folks a little angry. Switzer was not afraid to tell us if the offensive line was going to be a work in progress. Or if the defensive backs were going to have to learn on the job since they didn't have much experience. Why does Bob think he has to blow so much freaking smoke?
Now I can see Rover having a stroke so let me say that I'm happy we have Bob and wouldn't trade him but for perhaps Saban.
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oufisherman said...
You shot your mouth off quoting old players saying stuff about coaches like you were backing them. I put things in perspective and am NOT a fair weather fan, Stoops will be fine but good luck with your witch hunt! I will be paying attention to your future posts when things are glorious again!
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Hudson310 said...
Once again, who said anything about not supporting him? I certainly didn't. I'll adjust...maybe not a crappy job overall, but at the very least a crappy job as it pertains to the OSU game. You'll never convince me that our coaching staff did a good job that week.
And loyalty? That's rich. He had many reasons for staying at OU over the years, but loyalty to the fans is certainly not near the top of the list. Bob Stoops is just like everyone else...looking out for number one. He's stayed here because he felt like it was the best thing for him, not because of loyalty.
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jimnrh said...
Hudson, you may or may not be making some good points. You may perceive a lot of things from your perspective. But, unless you have spoken to Bob Stoops and discussed these areas of character with him, you really don't know what his goals are and what his loyalties are. Or, maybe you have spoken to several of the assistance that have worked with Bob, to get there more realistic perspective. We tend to make pretty strong statements about peoples motives and character, when we only know them from a distance.
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Hudson310 said...
Dude, you are either completely insane or completely devoid of reading comprehension skills. How, exactly, did I shoot my mouth off? I didn't quote any former players...I just said they are pissed about what is going on. I don't NEED to quote them because they are providing the quotes themselves IN PUBLIC. Did you hear James' interview with Rufus Alexander? Have you been following the stories about former player criticizing the team on twitter? Do some research before you start calling people to the carpet. And as far as your witch hunt comment goes, you've got the wrong guy. I never once said anything about firing any coach. You just cant' stand it that someone is saying something about OU other than "wow...aren't we great?!!??!"
And just to forewarn you, before you start monitoring my future posts, you had better go back and look at some of the ones from earlier this season because I've given props when they are due as well.
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I have talked to only two players out of hundreds that played for Stoops, Mills and Peters and while they are saying some changes need to be made there was also optimism that it will happen. Again criticism is part of the game and have had some myself but constructively. I do not question every single little thing said about Stoops or the program and the way this year turned out. I do not follow twitter! There are plenty of negative things to read here without going to another forum and my comprehensive skills are just fine. Bottom line is that some are on a which hunt or looking for an argument, what ever I do not care but it does sound to me like you are calling me stupid, can't read or some kinda crap like that so practice your comprehensive reading skills and read my posts regarding this stuff and you will know that I want to win as well but this shit is not just the fault of the coach IMO. By the way you can PM or IM me and I would be more than happy to meet and buy you a cold one to discuss OU football in an atmosphere where comprehensive reading skills and punctuation do not cloud the conversation, got nothing but wide open evenings working on the road.
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CrimsonHeart said...
Serious question- who are the players still on the team who are "rumored" to be the problems?
And do you know for a fact that there were no attitude issues with any of the players that have transferred?
I find it quite likely that at least a player or two may have been encouraged to transfer, but I don't know anything for sure.
Just maybe the coaches are working to remove some bad apples, but the usual suspects are coach bashing about players leaving,
Maybe this does not apply to you, but to some on this board the coaches don't do ANYTHING right and the continual negative spin gets tiresome.
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Hudson310 said...
I don't see where this "witch hunt" thing is coming from. You're taking the extreme views of about one half of one percent of fans and blanketing them over anyone and everyone who wants to see something done to correct the problems that are evident to anyone willing to look.
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Didn't we hear how special this team was?