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like we haven't figured this out
why doesn't he mention Lane Johnson a top 10 pick or Trent Williams or Davin Joeseph or Greshem or Bradford or AP or Garret Hartley. he is still humping Clausen's leg he is a baffoon!!!
I couldn't care less what Kiper thinks but I will at least comment that I would expect a guy that gets the exposure that he does as an expert in his field to be far more judicious with his choice of words. Someone should buy him a dictionary so he can look up the word "average".
Landry played with Ryan Broyles for 3 years. I dont care what he does in the NFL, to suggest he was anything other than a great college WR is silly. He also had 2, possibly 3 future pro WRs last year.
How's Jimmy Claussen working out?
I don't see how Kiper has sufficient access to OU's players to make a credible judgment of OU's talent.
A guy living on the East coast who read internet reports is supposed to be important to us, or know about our guys?
What he said......."In the defense of Landry Jones. He was probably a star in a group of very average players.” He was referring to the players in the current draft. Can't say I totally disagree....except for Landry and Lane. Who else in this draft class would be considered elite or even very good NFL talent? One or two of them may surprise over their careers, but when compared with the first two rounds of talent; we are lacking a little in this class...
This post was edited by wilsonIII 12 months ago
What did he say that was wrong?
The two best professional rookies in 2010 and both from Oklahoma City,Oklahoma.
Friday night on the show"NFL 32" on espn Bill Polland, former GM of the Colts said he would take Landry 1st QB in this draft. He feels Landry will go in the last 1/2 of the 1st round. Mel thinks 3rd round.
Good God take off your friggin crimson glasses. What talent on this team other than Lane Johnson are you so hot over. Not much talent on Bobs latest team. Starting to become the norm in Norman.
Sounds like he reads this board.
This post was edited by 00Sooner 12 months ago
No one really cares what Kiper thinks about the draft anyway. The NFL teams certainly don't. He's always wrong.
Millard- #1 FB nationally
Stills-3rd round draft pick
Saunders- probably 2nd-3rd round pick
Lane Johnson- top 10 draft pick
Ikard- likely AA
Tony Jefferson- 3rd round pick
Aaron Colvin- analyst are calling him the top DB in the nation.
There's plenty of talent. That's not even including our RBs or Daryl Williams who I think will be a solid NFL lineman. From last years line, at least 3 could be NFL starters.
If he was talking about last years team, he was close, but if he was talking about OU as a football school he was way off. He didn't upset me because I felt that he was only talking about a one year of OU football.
When we were with ESPN they explained their broadcast philosophy to us.
There are basically two distinct areas:
1: ESPN directives and objectives
2: the OPINIONS of on air 'talent'
ESPN (with ABC owned by Disney), has no agenda for against any team in any sport. They do have corporate policies but they do not dictate content, unless it's deemed 'offensive' and/or inappropriate.
Kiper, and the other talking heads (the Talent), can have an agenda or personal opinion on anything -- as long as they do not cross that 'politically correct line'.
ESPN's primary corporate objective is basically to sell the most advertising inventory that they can on their signals; (ESPN, ESPN2; ESPN U; ESPN News; ESPN Europe, etc).
ESPN's biggest challenge is not selling ads, but providing on-air CONTENT. To do this they need sports competition, news and talking heads 24/7 on all the above channels. They fill this enormous gap with a bevy of experts, real or imagined.
There is a difference between NEWS and OPINIONS. ESPN requires it's news to be 100% accurate, 100% of the time. But opinions do not have this requirement.
Mel Kiper was no real expert, just a guy who followed the NFL prospects and gave his opinions, be they accurate or made up. In the early days of ESPN he gave his opinions often because draft week is pretty slow from a sports news standpoint -- so he became a perceived 'expert.'
All this to say that anyone can be an expert, but not every expert's opinion is valid.
Kiper is right as much as he is wrong, much like we discuss recruits and their potential on signing day. In the end it's just an opinion, created to fill broadcast time, so that advertising can be sold to the eyeballs looking at that particular program.
Dull programming (and obvious opinions) creates little controversy and few eyeballs. But weave some outrageous comments or opinions to your show and now you have interest which brings in more eyeballs.
Just as this statement did.
There would be no real reason to post his comment on this board if he would have said:
"I really like Landry Jones at quarterback."
This post was edited by BBishop 12 months ago
Thanks Alan... It's all about the $$$$. If you are going to sell ads, you gotta have someone on the air saying something, even if it is doesn't make sense.
I for one have been pleasantly pleased at how we have ranked in terms of O Lineman U, RB U, WR U, etc. I would like to see us do better in terms of NFL talent, but we have nothing to be embarrassed about.
After careful analysis, my opinion is that Mel Kiper Sucks!
Best part of this statement alan.........."When we were with ESPN"..............
Hey Mel.........XOXO...............now go bloviate with the SEC.
This post was edited by boomerblue 12 months ago
ESPN is nothing but a bunch of splittail talking heads with some retired has been pros sucking up for a few dollars!
Say what you mean, mean what you say!!!
Apparently you have your own definition for what "not much talent" means.
There is really no way to even defend calling players like Jalen Saunders, Lane Johnson, Kenny Stills, and Trey Millard "very average"
He said, "star in a group of average players".
The definition of average is, a ratio expressing the average performance especially of an athletic team or an athlete computed according to the number of opportunities for successful performance.
How has OU's offense put up the numbers it has and top 15 offenses under LJ with "average" players? It only stands to reason that "average" players would put up "average" results and rank about 60 or so in offense. As it is, OU has not been below 15 since LJ's freshman year.
Kiper is one of many, especially folks on this site that are incapable of discerning the difference between elite, good, great, average etc. It is either the very best or average for many people, which is a disservice to how players are characterized.
Seems obvious to me.
I think his problem has been our "late season" losses the last few years. Kiper is not the only one down on the program...
That's the other dumb thing he said, there are not varying degrees of average. Something or someone is either average or not. He is an embarrassment to the network, as the network's subject matter expert on player evaluations and draft projections. What a douche.
This post was edited by NorthCalSooner 12 months ago
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