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It's funny how recruiting rankings never matter when your own team is out of the top twenty. But by God if your ranked in the top five then everyone is shot in the pants over their good fortune!
We're a funny lot about rankings and stars. The one that I always laugh at is that when we get a 5-star everyone is doing backflips, but when we miss out on the top guys the rankings and stars don't matter.
I"m kinda like...well if OU does such a great job with 3-star types, imagine how many national titles we'd have if we had a bigger toolset to work with.
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You pretty much proved their point. USC has highly ranked classes every year and still went 7-5. Meanwhile little ole Oklahoma went 10-2 with "average" talent. Also, which do you think is easier to recruit, LA, beaches, sun, cali women. Or, Norman and very little to do in the state for an 18 year old? Away games to beautiful LA, Washington, Oregon or Lubbock, Stillwater and Fort Worth?
My point was response to the JUCO thing, not necessarily dissecting USC's class, and the comment by the OUI employee that rankings don't matter.
Without going too far in thread sprawl, getting top guys gives you another component towards having a chance to win; because you get those folks doesn't mean, of course, that you'll win every game. We all know this. If that translated one-for-one, USC would win the national title every year. So, you add other important ingredients into the mix, such as coaching, dedication, hard work, etc. To have a chance to compete, you need players.
I don't buy that much into the beaches and Hollywood Blvd and all of that. Coach Switzer dealt with that and still got great players from CA and all over the country. It's tough to compete, sure, but Switzer still got players to come to OU. It can be done.
I think it's a mistake to compare recruiting in Barry's day to today, and I'm not saying Switzer couldn't recruit. He was among the best,
But it's a TOTALLY different deal now with social media, recruiting rankings, and most importantly scholarship limits that didn't restrict Switzer. He could offer a LOT more kids and take a lot more chances resulting in a much greater margin of error.
Switzers recruits didn't have "star ratings" for fans to bitch about.
Even today, the coaches don't give a crap about the number of stars that rivals or scout has given a particular kid. It's only the uninformed fans that get all tied up (high OR low) over such ratings. It's been extremely well documented that recruiting class ratings are not a trustworthy indicator of W-L records.
This post was edited by CrimsonHeart 16 months ago
Yes certainly all of that factors in. On the other hand, we have some studs on the team right now from CA, including one or two that we haven't even seen play yet. Stoops has had success on the west coast and has competed against the greatness of Southern California in the era of twitter and the internet.
Just saw that NICO FALAH will be in town soon...he's west coast I believe.
This post was edited by ab5sr 16 months ago
Just plugging numbers for fun...On Rivals we have a 'star average' of 3.285, or 3.29. If we sign, let's say, 9 more players, here's where our class would rank on signing day. (An approximation, so don't get too excited or flame me too bad, just having fun. This may not make sense when you look at ranking based on another ranking).
All 4-stars: 3.56 and 7-10
All 3-stars: 3.17 and 16-18
Mix 3,4 star:3.39 and 10-13
Mix 3,4,one 5-star: 3.43 and 9-12
All 5-star: 3.95 1 or 2
All 2-star: 20-25
I'm guessing we finish around 20, based on who I believe that we'll sign.
we have to work our way back to the top 10 and then work some more; smarter than we have been, but it's that simple...........great approach, and hard work, EARLY on these kids and we will begin picking up again
I've heard that Schmitty may be an issue with the way he treats kids, heard it a lot and every year; also have heard some kids have actually told recruits they would not like him.......true??
I don't know but I've see the talk on other sites and once on a radio program, (that one was talking about injuries however)
does anyone know?
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