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If Kish is so good, what happened to all those recruits he was trying to get to switch to OU. Did he even recruit a single linebacker? This man is to old to relate to these young guys. I hope Bob realizes he missed a great opportunity to hire a young up and coming coach. If he is still here next year then his recruiting skills will prove his ability to recruit or not.
Recruiting big defensive players seems to be difficult in recent years for OU and I have no idea why.
What is the fascination with the weight of players coming out of High School? Very few are ready to play right away and usually redshirt.
Plus who really knows the correct height and weight of any players at this time. If you don’t like it on one site just look at another one and you will see different information.
Preaching to the choir Denny. Terrible hire!
We did recruit Lb's with size, but we didn't land them ( mastro, chans cox, levenberry). We need to sign 3-5 in 2014
The great Daryl Hunt was 6'3" 200 lbs when he arrived at OU in 1975 and grew to a whopping 220 lbs by his senior year. Not sure why so many continue to question Evans size because if he is a player that would appear to be the most important aspect of his recruitment.
Dont be surprised if you only see 2-3 lb's for next year....
Yeah not many LBs come out of high school weighing 230. Most will be 200 or 215.
Um, Jordan Evans is a linebacker.
Listed at 6'3" and 205 it would seem he has the frame to put on enough good weight.
And a local kid, like I've been told we need to be recruiting.
Not trying to slam you, but OL were 6'3" & 270lbs in 1975. Now they are 6'6"+ and 300lbs+. Different era. We need a 6'3"+ 240-250lb Mike LB like yesterday. The point is there was not a stud LB that signed with this class in a position of real need. This is a glaring hole in this class and on this team. I agree that Kish should be replaced with a dynamic, young LB coach who can recruit his ass off.
i dont really care if they are old or young. remember young people you will be old as hell one of these years if youare lucky to live that long. now do i wish he was not hired ? yes do i wish he was gone? yes. not because he is old. just because he is not the answer.
Kish has Mike Stoops "0" LB defense to thank for the lack of interest in a stout MLB imo.
Kish even stated in his interview today that such experiment was a big mistake and won't happen in 2013.. Kish wants and needs LBs on the field.
Yeah while I agree somewhat, there are not going to be many 6'3 250 pound HIGH SCHOOL linebackers out there. Guys that size in high school are on the lines. That's why Jordan Evans is perfect. He's 6'3 205 and will easily put on 20 pounds next season and by the time he is an every game contributor he can very well be 230-240.
Ok I will give that to you as far as a different era. Now swing forward to 1983, Brian Bosworth was 210 lbs as a true freshman and Dante Jones was 203 lbs. Both put on more weight as they progressed through their time at OU and both turned out to be pretty good ballers. Talent and athletic ability trump. I would like to have seen a couple heavier linebackers also but given the circumstances of the last 3-4 games when mostly DBs were on the field I can understand why it was a hard sale to many HS players. Now it is a team sport with Sophs, Jrs, and Srs who played LB this year or will be switched back to LB from DE and in the 230 to 240 lb range so I seriously doubt any true Freshman would come in and start anyway. So my point is at this stage as fresmen recruits thrir athletic ability and potential seem to out weigh weight no matter what era.
I hope you're right. But has recent history provided any proof this will happen? Has the small LB that will add weight worked the last two-three years?
Hopefully when he's a jr he will be a 225lb olb.
I'm a real adult fan, not like all you other spoiled babies. You don't know anything about me, but I can make wild accusations about you.
Wow Debbie Downer- I can fire off the names of about two dozen coaches over the age of 60 who have recruited 5 star players consistently. Use that noggin much?
It always amazes me how so many of us think we can critique the recruits and post how they aren't big enough or fast enough or don't have enough stars. Good grief, these young men are excited and thrilled to be joining our Sooners. Let's welcome them all. What would some of you have said if we had recruited Wes Welker. He was a 5'9", 185lb, slow white kid who we didn't even offer.
Since size seems to matter for some with LB's, here's a list (not complete) of LB's as they came out of high school. This will be followed by a list of LB's from JUCO.
Rufus Alexander 6'2" 215
Zach Latimer 6'4" 215
Lewis Baker 6'3" 200
Demario Pleasant 6'3" 215
Ryan Reynolds 6'2" 216
Curtis Lofton 6'1" 225
Austin Box 6'3" 215
Travis Lewis 6'1" 213
Jayden Bird 6'2" 215
Tom Wort 6'1" 210
Aaron Franklin 6'1" 206
Rashod Favors 6'2" 215
Corey Nelson 6'0" 210
PL Lindly 6'2" 210
Franklin Shannon 6'2" 210
Eric Striker 6'1" 195
Torrance Marshall 6'3" 246
Lance Mitchell 6'2" 240
Pascha Jackson 6'3" 230
Mike Balogun 6'2" 250
Mike Reed 6'4" 245
I couldn't find the numbers, but I think Rocky Calmus was 6'2" 220 and Teddy Lehman was 6'3" 215 when they came out of high school. There are very few LB's who are over 220 lbs. when they get out of high school.
Did Kish recruit Evans. I heard it was a different coach. Heck the kid really wanted to play for OU anyway.
There's this kid by the name of Koa Kaleopaa OU looked at. He's listed at 260 pounds. Maybe he's the answer some on here are looking for.
Kish actually recruited Alexander, Evans, Okoronkwo, Romar, and Young.
Here's how you can tell whether he recruited even a single LB:
1)Go to Rivals' commitment list
2) click on Alexander, a LB
3) see who recruited him for OU
4) click on Kish
5) you'll get this page
where you'll see who he recruited and who he got. He recruited 19 and got five: Alexander, Evans, Okoronkwo, Romar and KJ Young.
He said on TV today that Alexander is already up to 215 pounds. Evans is 6-3 and listed on the official roster as 210 instead of 205.
Peruse the weights of the Rivals Top 40 outside LBs
and their Top 40 inside LBs:
You'll find some top high school LBs in the same size range as the guys we got, but their speeds aren't listed. I think we came out with faster ones. We may miss Mastrogiovanni, but I think the LBs we got are better suited to the Big12. (The unspoken thought is that Venables is too.)
Please do. I'm interested in how old coaches are and just who they recruited. I would like to see if there's any common factors.
Plus I'm still waiting on the list from the last time you said you could list "dozens of players".
Which one are you gonna produce first?
it's not just ou.............it's the whole big 12 conf.
we are now the old acc
Well...Nick Saban is 61.
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