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I looked around and found some notes on how Jones and Johnson did on Day 1. In general, Johnson did well and Jones did okay, at best. As one of the notes point out, timing, reads, etc. are tough for a QB on the first day because the players, plays, etc. are new to them. However, Tyler Wilson seemed to do pretty well and received most of the accolades for the South QBs.
- The South team is very deep in offensive line talent, though Oklahoma's Lane Johnson may be the best of the bunch. A former tight end, Johnson is a natural athlete, and he showed that athleticism throughout pass-blocking drills. He was able to mirror rushers smoothly and was able to recover when he did misstep.
- Of the South quarterbacks, Tyler Wilson probably had the best day. EJ Manuel of Florida State was erratic at times and Oklahoma's Landry Jones struggled with his reads on occasion, though that's to be expected on day one. Wilson showcased the arm strength a few times to hit deep outs to the sideline.
- Jones showed off good mechanics and underneath accuracy, but this was on passes without coverage and without pressure. The knock on Jones is that he falls apart under pressure, and today we didn't get a chance to see him under a pass rush.
- The former quarterback turned tight end turned left tackle showed off impressive athleticism today, solifidying his stock on my board as a first-rounder.
Johnson is a project—he needs to work on technique and hand use—but his athleticism makes for a great foundation. With Lane's quickness and footwork you have a base level agility that's uncoachable. You can teach and coach leverage and angles when you find an athlete good enough to take to the coaching. That's Johnson.
With so many teams looking for cornerstone left tackles, Johnson has a chance to make himself a ton of money this week.
- While Arkansas' Wilson impressed in many ways, one area in which Oklahoma's Jones clearly struggled was during the short swing passes to running backs. While the spread offense has certainly helped Jones rack up monstrous numbers as the most productive passer in Sooners' history, his relative lack of experience taking snaps from under center showed in his inability to hit his backs in stride as they released from behind him. Many quarterbacks believe the short swing passes to backs are actually some of the hardest throws to make... Jones appeared to provide evidence of this issue as he also demonstrated the ability to throw strikes on longer passes through tighter windows.
- Jones didn’t help himself earlier in the day at the weigh-in, coming under 6’4″ and not having any outstanding measurable, and then had a poor overall performance in practice. He struggled with his footwork coming from under center and didn’t look too comfortable throwing intermediate or longer routes. He has a nice deep ball, but it was rarely on target. He was much more precise on shorter quick passes, but got uncomfortable quick when his first or second read weren’t there.
- Really thought he had a great all-around practice, he lined up at both tackle spots and really showed quick feet and a nice sound base. He anchored well and didn’t allow much penetration. He wasn’t as good versus the run, but it was by no means a bad showing.
- OU’s #14 Landry Jones (6035/221) has a fluid release from his 3/4-arm angle and has to prove that he can move his feet, re-set and deliver the football on target.
- And though it's probably not possible to truly get draft stock help at the weigh-in, some players passed the eyeball test with flying colors. Two linemen especially, Oklahoma's Lane Johnson and Central Michigan's Eric Fisher, drew plenty of attention from the onlookers.
- The South's offensive line is loaded with talent, featuring Virginia tackle Oday Aboushi (No. 72), Alabama right tackle D.J. Fluker (No. 76), Oklahoma offensive tackle Lane Johnson (No. 69), and Kentucky guard Larry Warford (No. 67). All four of these players are competing to be first round picks.
This post was edited by James Hale 18 months ago
Thanks for the updates! Jones may not be the most talented QB or athlete that OU has had, but he's a great Sooner. Wish him the best in the NFL.
Here's what one blogger says about Tony Jefferson
Another safety prospect that is trending in the opposite direction is Oklahoma safety Tony Jefferson. Scouts are saying that Jefferson has been getting trashed by some of his former coaches for horrible practice habits and a lack of work ethic in the weight room. Jefferson has a lot of physical talent, but it is really going to hurt his draft stock to have former coaches telling NFL teams to pass on him. A couple sources said they wouldn't be surprised if Jefferson has a free fall in the draft from a second-day pick to the third day. It will be really important for Jefferson to test well and interview well at the Combine.
Could this help with recruiting.
Maybe I'm naive, but can't imagine any OU coach trashing a kid who showed up and played and made no trouble. If it was a kid the Sooners were glad to be rid of, then maybe, but I hope not in this instance.
I don't believe that our coaches would "trash" any former player, especially Jefferson.
Probably nothing more than honestly answering questions asked. Our coaches ask questions of high school coaches to get a feel of a particular prospects character, academics and overall work habits. Candid and honest answers are appreciated I'm sure. What doesn't sit well with me is that the scouts would make public what should have been kept in confidence.
Pretty hard to believe they would "trash" a kid. However, if he really didn't practice hard or work the weights and conditioning, how are the coaches to respond to direct questions from the scouts? Do they lie or cover up? Maybe TJ had such good athleticism we couldn't see the effect of poor habits...or perhaps the blogger is just being sensational and has a bone to pick. It is hard to really know.
Our coaches may feel this way about him, but I cant see them saying it publicly. I would think they want former players to excel in the NFL as it makes them look better. Of course when it says former coaches, maybe it is former coaches no longer associated with OU, like Martinez or Venables, I am not saying it is true or it was them, just that I cant see our current coaches saying something like this.
I'm not happy about this at all, you don't trash your players ever!
When players rip coaches they get reprimanded.
Bob needs to look into this, it doesn't matter if it's true or not, these are kids trying to create a living.
If it's false the reporter/scout needs to talk again with our coaches!
We want these guys to continue to represent Oklahoma, and Tony Jefferson always has!
I'm very disappointed.
Hard to believe that our coaches will tell scouts to pass on a player! However it is what it is!!
Trashing a player would be overstating or over-emphasizing a negative aspect of a player with the intent to harm them. Telling the truth about a player when asked a question is different. We don't know the content of the questions asked or the intent of the coaches response. Nor do we know the completeness of the questions that were asked. Maybe the blogger just decided to amplify the negative to make a point as to why the player performed the way he did. Also, if the blogger (reporter) received the response to a question as second hand information, it would be a little difficult to determine the intent. Sounds like a little artistic freedom on the reporters part...
It's a blogger. Be skeptical. He may be right on, but this wouldn't be the norm for the coaches or Tony.
It seems both Landry and Lane have problems with technique. Gee I wonder why that is??? Maybe a QB coach (who probably should stay just a QB coach) who can't call a game and a OT coach with limited coaching experience. Damn what a surprise!!
Even the best highly sought after draft picks have "problems with technique." It is a huge jump from college to pros. Bigger than the jump from High School to college. That's why there are position coaches on the pro level still teaching technique to 30 year old men who have been playing for quite a while. Sometimes technique flaws can be covered up by having superior talent than our opponent. But, if you ever watch practice at any level of football, there is a portion of the practice dedicated to "individual" skill. Individual skill or technique is a constant learning process, with each practice dedicated to improving that skill. So, to say one coach is responsible for lack of a basic skill over the career of any football discipline is incorrect. Some aspects of a skill discipline are more emphasized depending on the coach and the overall offensive strategy, defensive strategy and play execution of the team.
Right on with this. I think LJ will get more comfortable with the process and timing as he goes through the work outs. No question that he could have a tough time with pressure in his face, but this will certainly be the time to try and shake those demons. NFL coaches love uncoachable talent and coachable minds. Both of which these two guys possess.
» Oklahoma product Landry Jones had the best day of all the quarterbacks. He has outstanding arm talent and moved around better in the pocket than he did on fall tape. There are a handful of teams that are desperate for a quarterback; Jones made a strong statement to them with his performance on Monday.
Some of the notes on Twitter from Scouts and Reporters haven't been as kind. One guy in particular, Benjamin Allbright @NFLDraftMonster, has been very critical of Landry and very pro-Tyler Wilson as if he has some sort of an agenda.
Glad you asked, I can give you my opinion for what it's worth.
Normally you have problems with technique because you haven't had the reps to make it second nature. You don't need to room with your position coach to learn technique you just need to have it taught and implanted in your brain. Then you practice, practice, practice (not necessarily with the coach present) until it becomes second nature and you perform without over thinking. Lane has been an offense tackle for an entire two seasons so that just might explain why his technique is lacking by NFL standards. Landry was hardly ever under center so he needs to get his footwork and timing down while playing under center. He has the arm to make the throws so with a few reps under center he should be able to make the transition.
I would agree with your opinion...two words...muscle memory...
Johnson is about to get paid, especially after his combine numbers. Jones will settle in. I wonder if some of the issues with the team last year (2012) was the lack of practice and off field work as Jefferson has been alleged. Who gets credit for Johnson's development? Kittle? Patton? Stoops? Johnson? Or all!
So true. Be very, very skeptical. Bloggers don't report truth. They give their "opinions", many of which have hidden or clear agendas. Many times they report rumors without even checking for accuracy.
Even if it's not truth re: coaches/Jefferson, it's in the public domain now. There will be a number of kids/recruits/fans who view this as truth even if it is later reported to be false. Not good regardless.
Jefferson stated on twitter he won team awards for being a leader in the weight room. So this is a surprise indeed.
The quote about Jefferson was from a BLOGGER for God's sake. That could be a longhorn fan or an okie lite aggie. What a bunch of crap to even allow some idiot to make a comment like that and then an idiot here posts it as if it is fact! I say Bull Sht on any of our coaches making that kind of comment about Jefferson!
Please. Schmitty did all he could to keep Trent Williams from being drafted in the top 5. I wonder who this former coach with knowledge of weight room habits could be?
Jake Trotter @Jake_Trotter
Whether Walter FB report is true http://bit.ly/Wl6FR4 about coaches trashing Tony Jefferson, it's clear Jefferson believes it to be true based on his twitter timeline
Had always been told Jefferson wasn't a great practice player early in his career. Was told he had turned things around some though.
Knew when Mike Stoops went off on him about maturity after OSU game that Jefferson wasn't exactly the teacher's pet.
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