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Now that Oklahoma literally beat the piss out of Texas, what are your thoughts on new commitments? Can we expect a cascade of five or six in the next 48 hours? Any follow up or comments with any of them?
If that game and that performance on both sides of the ball by Oklahoma didn't sway them to the good side, I simply don't know what will...
I predict it doesn't change anything for awhile. First of all, we're not going head to head with Texas on maybe one or two and those will likely pick Texas. The large class of Texas players that we did want committed to Texas a long time ago. Texas will finish with a top class and we'll battle for the Texas leftovers. That's the way of life in the football world. Now someone needs to explain to me how we beat Texas like a stepchild two years running, while they get their choice of the talent. Verrrrry mysterious! Watching the games last year and this year, you would have thought we were getting all the best players. Apparently it's more about what you do with the players after you get them.
This post was edited by soonerhorseman 18 months ago
Yeah, it pretty much never works that way for us. Just like we did not lose any recruits, likely, with the K-State loss.
I agree with you soonerhorseman!
But, I think it will help us immensely down the road for those stud recruits that wont commit until the under armor game or signing day. I think we get some good D and O linemen (including DEs) and LBers.
It's too bad but i have the feeling that we've seen Mac's last game in the RRR!
Maybe that is because we don't have that many committed...yet...?
I hope this topic stays near the top. Very excited about the win, but I would like to see some improvement in our current recruiting class.
Doesn't have to be commitments, just comments, did they have a good time? Is C Collins glad he committed to Texas last week? Did we make any headway with Mitchell or Manning?
Even a final list of who actually made it in. O Linemen? D Linemen? LBs?
I hope our win over Texas was more impressive to Mitchell than A&M's win over LA Tech. A&M will most likely lose 3 out of the next 4.
Texas always get the top players in Texas (four and five star individuals). We get the left-overs; After Saturday, we know where the REAL players went to learn and play their college football. BOOMER - SOONER !!!
I'm going to commit to come back to Dallas next year for my 15th RRR to watch us beat the piss out of them again.
Winning in a big game never hurts. It is not always an immediate reaction but through the remaining process it will make a difference.
It will help with the 2014 recruits. Especially if we go to a BCS bowl and Fexas is in weedeater bowl.
I'm feeling exactly like you are. I want to tear my hair out. Every time we beat them I feel the same.
But there are a couple of things that save my hair:
1) The "Texas leftovers" consist of 75 to 100 star preps.
2) In 2003 we beat UT 65 - 13. Here are the recruits we got from TX that year:
Rhett Bomar QB Grand Prairie, TX 5 stars national #1 QB TX #2
Adrian Peterson RB Palestine, TX 5 stars national #1 RB TX #1
Alan Davis DE Colleyville, TXHeritage School 4 stars national #13 WDE, TX #22
Lendy Holmes WR Dallas, TXSouth Oak Cliff 4 stars national #19 WR TX #25
Marcus Walker DB Waco, TX 4 stars national CB #3 TX #9
Fred Strong WR Austin, TX 3 stars national #36 WR TX #43
Cameron Schacht OL Coppell, TX 3 stars nat OT #40 TX 64 (TX Football Mag star)
J.D. Quinn OL Garland, TX 3 stars nat #25 OG TX #49 (TX Football Mag star)
Randy McAdams OL Leander, TX 3 stars nat #25 OT (TX Football Mag star)
Garrett Hartley K Southlake, TXCarroll 3 stars nat #2 K TX #82
Corey Bennett DT San Antonio, TX 2 stars TX #94
AD, Hartley, Walker and Holmes became good-to-great players.
Bomar and Quinn became starters and, arguably, felons.
Other good recruits we got in that class outside our normal area (and thus maybe influenced by the UT win) were Brandon Braxton (nat #5 OT from Youngstown), Chris Patterson (nat #3 LB from Chicago), Brett Bowers (nat #10 S from Jacksonville, FL) and Chijioke Onyenegecha (widely sought CB from SF City College).
Like 2004 we already have commitments from the top RB and the top QB in TX. Here's this year's TX class so far:
Austin Bennett nat WR #65TX #56
Matt Dimon nat DE #23 TX #67
Keith Ford nat RB #8 TX #13
Jordan Mastrogiovanni nat MLB #25 TX #43
Cody Thomas nat QB #11 TX #26
We also had a 1st team TX Football Mag All-Star OL (Breyer?) whose career was ended by injury.
It seems likely to me the recent whipping will help us with Texas players miffed at not being offered by UT (that's ultimately 275 genuine D-1 prospects a year), Texas players who want to leave the state, Texas players who want to compete for a national championship or develop to their fullest football potential and players across the country impressed with the program and the coaching staff that achieved that result.
If it doesn't work out we'll once again find good players elsewhere and settle for beating Texas by 42 points.
Plus Texas players who have no idea what will happen with the coaching staff and schemes if Mack and co. are fired at season's end.
It doesn't work that way NNich. As players, they have endured both wins and losses over their careers and aren't fickle and emotional like fans. These young men don't make a life decision based on one game. I am not discounting that it doesn't have an impact for maybe a few recruits, but it isn't that important overall.
What does that have to do with the follow up on the recruits that were at the game? I am looking for quotes on what they thought of the scrimmage.
I don't think there is all that much of impact on recruiting based upon one game in the series. A string of victories will impact it. But we are getting a lot of news both in the print media and on TV down here in Texas implicating Mack could be in trouble. That will have a bigger impact on the recruits than the result of the game.
Chris "Smoke" Patterson...the Linebacker that never was.
I have decided the top players in Texas (and there are many) who shun us by and large choose Texas for a variety of reasons. Texas and their campus (Austin) is more appealing and Texas is easier and is a more family atmosphere. I think a lot of these players are soft to begin with and entitled. These players have peaked and many think they will go star in the NFL regardless how hard they work and they know OU they will work their butt off and not be coddled. They don't think they need to push we give players to be successful. They feel they are already NFL ready so to speak. Even if players get better at OU they are already better anyway.
The two best professional rookies in 2010 and both from Oklahoma City,Oklahoma.
This post was edited by kwest2 18 months ago
I heard all 30 recruits at the game committed on the spot by the 3rd quarter
My thinking is closer to this statement. The fellow that said that we get the "leftovers" needs
to be careful in his statements. OU does not take the leftovers; moreover they are all evaluated till the right parties are approved. We have some that have committed to UT early , just to get a spot. They can only take so many. They turned away Russell Quinn this year and we want him. Reason, no room at the Inn at Austin. Seems that the economy is having a big factor on who goes where. Gasoline and getting time off is sometimes hard to acquire. OU is a hard nose place to go play football; and yes, we hit in practice. We also don't take any crap for non-compliance or academics, go to class or hit the gas. So let's be patient (hard to do) and see who comes to the top. We need the old magical "Indian Handcrafted Stir Stick". put all names in the bucket and use the stick to stir and see who name comes to the top. Winners!
Maybe we need to take out an ad on LHN of Mack and that look of someone stole my donnut look during the game.
I don't agree for a second that Texas' program is more of a family atmosphere. Do they coddle their players compared to OU? That I'll buy, but that's not what I think of as a family atmosphere.
If I had a son in position to play D-1 ball, there's no one I'd rather trust him to than Coach Stoops and his staff. Not only because they'd help him improve, but because they can be trusted to treat him like their own son, to keep him on the straight and narrow and to support him in his scholastic endeavors, and to be there for him if he runs into any difficulty, scholastic, academic or on the playing field.
That's my idea of a family atmosphere. Tough love, perhaps, but love nonetheless.
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