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Would Johnny Football have won the heisman this year if he was still in the Big XII? Given everything he did stats wise being the same AND going 10-2, would he have still won the award?
No chance. He would have been competing against Big XII defenses vs. SEC defenses, i.e., perception issue.
This post was edited by AdamsHall 18 months ago
...took the words out of my mouth.
"Oh, huge numbers in the Big XII...what's new?"
Plus, the Aggies would have had more losses in the Big XII.
No way! He won the trophy based on his performance vs. Alabama. It was an impressive performance and he is impressive, but if he had done this vs. Big 12 competition it would have meant no more than Landry's or Collin's performances this year...
This says it.........obviously he performed well in other games, but he won the Heisman the day he beat Alabama.
Nope. We need to remind people of that tomorrow night.
a lucky game against ala. won it for him
Don't think the $EC is quite so salty as once perceived, got on a good streak and may even win another NC against the domers but I kind of felt we would have a good barometer of things over there with A&M being there, thought MIZZOU would do a little better though. Proof is in the bowl games thus far, Gators? LSU? the old toughest game on anybodies schedule Miss St? In the end their conference is not that much better than ours.
AdamsHall is exactly right on this. First Geno Smith was the press favorite, until a loss, then Matt Barkley until the second loss for USC, then Colin Klein for K-State until they lost. Johnny was at the right place at the right time with the win over Alabama. I don't think that he would have been the Media Darling in the Big 12.
AdamsHall hit it right on. SEC has several top teams in the top 10 every year and are top in defense too.
Interesting question. I think we are better prepared to face Johnny Football because of the QBs we have played in the B12. I think we may do better than most think we will.
I say yes, but it would have been closer. His stats are better than Klein's who got 3rd place (out of the Big 12). If Johnnie was in the Big 12 his stats would have been even better right? He would have likely made even more spectacular plays in our defense light league. I'd take him over Klein regardless. All of you that say no. Who would have been in front of him?
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We'll never know! Just stating the facts. Would Bradford have won it his year in the SEC? We'll never know!
but we can always ask what if!
Timing is everything. Any objective person would admit that this was not a vintage year for Heisman candidates. Last year JM would have finished third behind RG3 and Luck.
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You may be correct. My conclusion above was based upon the Big XII D's he would have faced (including their perception amongst the national media), and the fact that he was a freshman. Had aTm been in the Big XII this year, they probably would have won the league and that would have taken out Klein. Not sure the ND LB could ever get more votes that he ended up with. Of course, with aTm out of the SEC, some other player from that league would have been beaten into our collective brains ... my guess someone from a Crimson colored program.
He was "lucky" enough on Friday night to come within 13 passing yards of being the SECOND PLAYER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY to throw for 300 and rush for 200yds in the same game. In a close game he breaks this record instead of calling off the dogs and milking the clock in the 4th quarter.
Also "lucky" enough to break the SEC record (held by Tebow and Newton previously) for total yards in a season.
"lucky" enough to break the 40 year old single game record for total offense in a game....twice this season.
What big 12 defenses would have stopped him?
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