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So WTF is Jammal doing the rest of his life? Is he in an Assisted Living Facility, or could he put his actions where his mouth is and take a Graduate Assistantship as O-Line coach-helper. The players would know he's done the workouts. He'd have the credibility. He'd have everything he needs to do the job and get into coaching if it's important enough to interrupt his career as a whatever.
And the same goes for the other embarrassed former warriors who could give more than money back to OU if they'd pitch in and show the kids how to live it. Let's go guys! Fans can't get in the players' faces with any authority. Where can the kids learn except from people who've been through it? What can Bob do except threaten to fire people? He doesn't have the emotional leverage that former stars do.
Some of our former pro players don't need pay for an internship reminding players when to move their butts and how to sweat. Do you think the players would turn against Jammal and Roy Williams and Tony Casillas or Dewey Selmon and the Boz like they can turn against a professional conditioning coach who's "ruining their lives"?
Don't just broadcast at us, come help! Come back to Norman where we love you!
This post was edited by cullison 15 months ago
God, that was good Cullison. You may be on to something
I was listening to one of the bama players after the game and he said Coach Saban will tell the team on thursday, "They haven't done anything, that was the 2012 team. Now you have to go prove what kind of team 2013 is". Something close to that.
While I agree with your post in principal you are only allowed to have so many people working with the team, even if they are unpaid. Second I believe you would need to be asked to come and work with the offensive line. He can't just show up on a Monday and say I'm here let me go to work.
If the coaches really wanted to make some changes I agree with what you said and they should be inviting older players to come in and either work with the team or at least talk to them.
Those Cali guys have far and away been 3 of the better players on this team. It is more likely an okie dokie is trying to scapegoat some guys because they are from California. Let's see, this season alone Stills led the team in receiving, Jefferson led the team in tackling and Clay only contributed 650 total yards as a back-up w/a 6 ypc avg.
I have a far bigger problem with guys like Oklahoma born and bred 5-star Gabe Lynn that has stunk most of the time or 4-star Javon Harris that was a bust waiting to happen until this season. Is that because Stills has a funny hairdo?
If you want to talk about attitude problems, what about Austin Haywood another 4-star Oklahoman that quit before he got started.
As for the people that think Twiiter has anything to do with this teams problems, I hope you are not serious.
you're trying to make an attempt to bash rather than repeat what was said. No one is blamng them for our problems, but they exhibit the problem described. Lackadasical. And , as leaders should be helping move away from that attitude. And James has alluded to that as well. Not singling anyone out. Lets get back to the issue .
Jammal isn't a "real" fan. He should go root for Bama.
You've stated the Correct, but of course I was talking out of the box (and over the side of the ship). My implication was that we're hearing from a lot of successful former players sounding like ranting codgers instead of potential mentors which, I'm sure, they'd prefer to be.
I agree with your "If the coaches really wanted to make some changes..." however. That's a burr under another saddle. They might answer from the recruiting trail, munching their recruiting trail mix, "Jeez, Louise, one thing at a time!"
I was wondering as was a previous poster, just how much of this rhetoric from former players, Tillman and Brown etc. is based on the sting of the Cotton Bowl and how much from actual knowledge of the inner workings of the current team? In my opinion the usc disaster was much worse and we survived that. If atm didn't have a true freek at qb and we hung with them and maybe even beat them would everyone be spewing all this? If not then the whole melt down is because of one guy. One little sub 6 foot former 3 star qb that turned out to be as hard to catch as a pissed off cat.
well thats all good and well that he comes on the radio and speaks out, as a former player, u would think he would have an in with the coaches and call them and spew his anger, all talk on the radio, and on here is just talk, go to the source, talk to them, he has the in
Yep, that would be the adult and productive thing to do cldodger. Otherwise they are just sound bites from another talking head.
I think that's the problem, SoonerNM. The coaches 4 weeks to prepare the players for basically 1 guy. We all saw how that went. Having problems with a dual threat QB is nothing new for this staff. One would think there could be a scheme that could neutralize at least one facet of a dual threat QB's game...either running or passing. I've seen no improvement or ability to even do that.
It really makes one question the staffs ability to either A.) scheme or B.) recruit or C.) develop fundamental skills. All this staff has shown is the ability to make opposing players better than what they really are while validating the hype of the highly touted opposing players.
Offensively, three 3 and outs to start the 2nd half is unacceptable. Bob has said over and over and over how he wants his offense to be "balanced". Whose fault is it that it hasn't been balanced the past 2 years? I'm not a huge fan of Landry's, but I do understand the pressures of throwing 50+ times every single game
Jamal is obviously allowed to say what is on his mind, but to me, this comes across as having diarrhea of the mouth.
The thing that will be interesting to me, is what changes will these coaches make in the offseason? Toughness is what built the success in the Stoops era, but that seems to be gone. Will this team get back to playing tough, physical football? Or will we keep seeing the finesse style of play we've been seeing the past few seasons.
This post was edited by Tyler McComas 15 months ago
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How did the Saints do in 2012? Are they going to make a run in the playoffs? Why not?
I am afraid with Heupel on board we will continue to be a finesse team. I think Mike Stoops will do what he can to instill toughness but they have got to recruit better on the DL and LB.
I'm not a fan of all this excessive negativism. Very few organizations would say that's the way to handle underperformance. However, this is just a website and people can say what they want and so can former players.
You're absolutely right, but there's not that fire and intensity on the defensive side of the ball, or not that I've seen. Like a lot of people have been saying, defensive is an attitude. Show me that mean streak and attitude that all great defenses possesses. Obviously that can't change overnight, but the coaches need to instill the players with that toughness that you saw in the early 2000's.
Texas A&M 29 Alabama 24
OU will be tougher next year because of team leadership. Mark it down.
I"m not totally sure what point you are trying to make but if trying to show scores among common opponents:
Bama 42, ND 14
ND 30, OU 13
Also, Jammal is a Redskin, not a Saint
Its important to back our team in rough times. We need to move forward not backward or stagnate. This is a big recruiting weekend ! Let's look ahead !
A&M 29 Alabama 24.
Fair Enough. How are the Redskins doing?
Jammal Brown certainly in a position to judge the current Sooner squad; after all, OU suffered no disappointing losses during his time at OU, right?
Well, except for losing at home to oswho in 2001. And getting smoked by oswho on the road in 2002. And getting routed by KSU in the Big 12 title game in 2003. And suffering as bad a loss as I ever hope to see an OU team be dealt against USC the next season.
And folks were convinced after each one of those losses that the sky was falling and Stoops had lost it and changes needed to be made and coordinators had to be fired and the players were not as tough as those who preceded them.
“When most people say they are being 'realistic,' they delude themselves; they are simply being negative.” —Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
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