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Do you think he can make the jump from a good # 2 WR to a great #1 WR this year or do you think he will always be more of a player that's needs a Broyles type player opposite of him to take the pressure off of him?
"With Nebraska trying to leave, we felt like we needed to send them out with a loss, and we did." -Ryan Broyles-
Sorry, I know you are looking for a response from Canyoneer, and I'm looking forward to hearing his opinion on this as well. However, we should consider/remember that Kenny wasn't 100% healthy for the second half of the season. It is my opinion that when he is completely healthy, he is fully capable of competing at an elite level. He's never going to be an effective slot receiver running cross routes like Broyles, but he is one heck of a wideout. And I think his "disappearance" last year was more due to health as opposed to feeling the pressure of being the goto guy. Most teams will find out this year that if they concentrate on shutting down Stills, any one of the other new receivers has the ability to light up a secondary (Metoyer, Gardner, Bester, maybe Saunders, not to mention Whaley and Williams catching out of the backfield). By the middle of the season when the newbies are situated, I think that is what we will see a lot of. But I'm generally a glass half full kinda guy.
It appears that Metoyer is better. Perhaps what Stills needed was some competition. We had waaay too many dropped balls and poor routes after Broyles went down. We cant have that from Stills. We will see what happens in the game, but in the spring, Metoyer was our best WR. They said that dude just doesnt drop the ball.
There is nothing more dangerous in this world than a man with nothing to lose.
Imagine Stills picking up a few more receptions just because RB is not getting so many. So Stills has 80. And from spring it would not be surprising to see Metoyer with as many as Stills.
With RB's getting receptions, how many do we need from the other receivers? If we only had the freshmen, we would be ok for receptions. The lack of drops is most important for receiving. Consistency.
The question would be blocking. I have seen many of our past WR's make great blocks on the edge. For freshmen, that will be tough.
My guess is that on wide running plays, swing passes and the like, we will have some wasted downs when the WR misses an important block.
I also guess we will not struggle with WR's getting open and catching the ball. Even though I understand getting open for the freshmen, will be harder than they are use to from high school. They will get better over the year.
Of course, if the Juco receivers are here and effective, we maybe even better. But I would think their blocking will need development.
Overall, I think we will get our receptions regardless. I think our struggle will be more related to blocking.
This post was edited by tlccva 21 months ago
Stills needs to stop pouting and run his routes. Too many times he would break off his route, not finish the route. He needs to make up his mind that he is going to be the best WR out there. Only then, when he licks the mental part of it , will he be good. And Metoyer and the juco's just might more fire than him and push him off the field.
Broyles always seem to play through injuries. Stills needs to toughen up and learn from that. Few are perfectly healthy all season.
The bench is a great motivator. We have some serious talent coming in. Maybe that will push the current WRs on the roster to do better. If they can step up, we will have a 2008 type offense this year.
I have watched Stills for years, even in HS. He has been somewhat injury prone and that has gotten in the way of his development as a player. But he has also gotten in his own way for other reasons as well. The potential is amazing, but when you are a junior it should no longer be potential.
Stills should have a major year, and if he does, he will probably be gone. He just has to quit pouting, and stay healthy and lead. For OU to have the kind of year that they are capable of he has to have a 70 plus reception year. And he is more than capable of doing that. What I do know is that the three Cali kids have worked very hard off season. Very hard. And that Jefferson (soon to be AA) is now 210 or more,and quicker, Clay is 204 and faster and quicker, and that Stills is around 195 and much stronger. And he needed to get stronger. How that impacts his game remains to be seen.
I think it is very interesting that Landry has apparently been working with Sheppard and Metoyer a lot informally off season, Sure would like to have seen Stills be there as well. But between these three there will be a lot of success, and very soon. It is a shame that Gardner and Bester were not there to work with Landry. It certainly will be impact the beginning of the season, at least.
I expect Stills, and again if he stays healthy, to have a major year. He is a very talented guy, The challenge is to get him a step higher, and to lead as they need him to. I certainly would not want to be the guy who has to scheme to defend Stills, Metoyer, Bester, Neal, Sheppard, McNamara, Green, Grissom, Woods, and perhaps Saunders and Gardner..That is the kind of thing which gives coaches ulcers
Talent. Stills has NFL talent. But it is up to him.
The pouting thing is news to me. I don't remember seeing that, but I've only seen the games on TV since Stills has been here.
I think the missing strong running game is the most important factor that is an unknown and must be solved. This is not only for Stills to be able to have a bigger year but this team as a whole. Broyles was sooo great that he drew coverage across the middle and in the short flat creating more space for Stills to operate. A stronger running game will create that same space. I believe the sheer upgrade in talent at receiver (albeit new) will be really fun to watch this fall. The aerial show should be at full force by Cotton Bowl time.
"Sooner Born, Sooner Bred...."
He's a pouter for sure saw it at the games I went to.
If he's truly at 195 pounds, then that's a start. (He could probably fill out a dress better, too)
That's who I am... a Sooner.
I think that you have a huge part of it. Teams in the last part of last season did not fear OU's running game. In fact, they ignored it. Clay didn't have the quickness or speed to be a threat (hopefully, and from what I have heard that has improved) and they knew Finch was not going to beat them as well (hopefully some of his over-reliance on the spin move has been toned down. The spin moves actually slowed him down on some runs that he would have been better advised to plant, cut and move instead. And players who over-rely on back spins get hurt, period. Usually badly hurt).
With Whaley (hopefully), Williams and maybe Ross or the other Williams, that is not going to happen. OU will have some inside running this year. And hopefully that is mostly Millard.
It will certainly give Stills some one on one time to play with. And that is a mismatch.
SoonerAtlanta is correct of course. Also, Bobby Jack Wright in an interview said that Stills has AMAZING athleticism and if he will focus he will ABSOLUTELY be playing on Sundays. So no, Stills doesn't suck, he just needs to turn it up a notch.
Kenny Stills was doing the same things as Trey Franks off the field. He certainly wasn't in good graces with the coaching staff last season. Then he couldn't perform the last half of the season for whatever reason. Unfortunately we had nobody to replace him. We don't know either. Hopefully he has matured and will play up to his high level of skill.
Stills biggest obstacle is himself, i.e. what is between his ears in regards to his atttitude and mental toughness. He needs to go from considering himself as special to being special on the field. Forget the hair, tatoos, and all the grooming drama. Just be a person on the team who plays great and not a guy who wants everyone to notice how wonderful he is......
I think we will be better running the ball, but Huepul cant pull an FSU on us and run into 11 man fronts. I know we want to prove a point, but thats not the way to do it.
.....appreciate some clarification on 'doing the same things as tf off the field'. Was he approaching 'bad apple' status but avoided major consequences due to his 'star' status? Just curious.
Thanks for the insight that's great info.
RPHDenton you said, "Was he approaching 'bad apple' status but avoided major consequences due to his 'star' status? Just curious."
Listen man, you know Bob Stoops well enough to know THAT is hogwash. Stoops kicked Granger off before the Bowl game. He kicked his starting QB off RIGHT before the start of a Possible NC season.
That is crazy to think BS would put up with bs from anyone period.
I assume this is a voluntary thing, but why in the world would Kenny not be there working with these guys? Just has other priorities? I'm not trying to bash him. Maybe their schedule is already fairly full, and participating in this would be way above and beyond?
He is who he is which is pretty much who we recruited. Yes there are distractions involving him, but he has produced for OU on the big stage.
In addition to the big plays he has already accomplished, he has been valuable in recruiting. Let's give him this season to see if he matures and gets back on track to helping us win games. KS is a character, but a character who can get it done. He isn't the only player ever at OU to fit that catagory, better yet, he's on a long list of former players who too were interesting to say the least.
He's a college kid who has not done nothing that I would call a distraction. Is it the dress you are referring to? Bob barely gave it a full sentence response when asked about it. He was innocently playing a joke on a friend. How is that a distraction?
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