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Bob heard the fans complaints and he "fixed it". Dont believe for a minute the coaches dont read the boards.
I think you answered the question with your post. ROFLMAO
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You're close. If we'd only done those things, we'd have preemptively been named national champs. The trophy would already be on display in the Switzer Center.
“When most people say they are being 'realistic,' they delude themselves; they are simply being negative.” —Dr. Norman Vincent Peale
You're kidding me, right?
While its likely that someone at the university is assigned to monitor media like this, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that our coaches are trolling message boards.
Some players maybe, but not the coaches on any sort of regular basis. Dang well better not be anyway.
A lot of insecurity issues on here. Yes it's obvious to most that we needed to make changes. Yes if most of the fans called the ksu game ...we'd be undefeated still. Because some of us realize lj needs a lot of help. And running the ball more than 27 times would've been obvious. But I'm glad bob finally did something. Too bad we had to lose a game before that though.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by BYLRK 21 months ago
On this board you must agree with everyone or you're wrong.
Thanks some people just don't get it
NO! Are you implying that the coaches don't see the things that need fixed or adjusted? There's a reason they get paid like they do.
Wow, it's amazing how some people are legends in their own mind.
You guys that are insinuating that it's not that hard to coach the Oklahoma Sooners could not win your division as high school football coaches if you were given the chance.
Heck I bet most of you couldn't bring home hardware coaching pop-Warner.
But hey, just keep telling yourselves that our coaches are where they are just because they got a lucky break and that you could do just as good or better.
And do this particularly after the last two weeks.
Just plain silliness.
You are comparing one man (Warren Buffet) to a team of 13 coaches? Or, are you saying the team WB has assembled is light years ahead of the team of 13 coaches at OU within a highly competitive, fluid, complex, rapidly changing and unpredictable environment?
Difference is different, right? You know, the ole "apples to oranges" comparison.?.
If WB had only hit one homerun in the last 14 years, I'd say you were on to something.
Or maybe if Bob Stoops had somehow backed into only one conference championship game over roughly the same time period then YOU may be on to something.....
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Have you ever heard of "the Peter Principle"? If not, look it up.
Is it possible?...event the slightest possibility?...just one ounce or iota of peter principle in college football?...perhaps your position at your job?
Some big man who thinks he capable of coaching D1 football at an elite level gives me a down vote for telling him he is not as good as our coaches.
Seems pretty thin skinned for someone who thinks they can handle prime time.
Don't lump everyone else into your category.. just because you couldn't do it.
I'm quite successful at my chosen profession.
It sounds like you are as well, congratulations.
But I'm not so full of myself that I believe I'm capable of duplicating what Bob Stoops has done in his chosen profession.
I guess maybe you are. Cool for you. I doubt it, but maybe I'm wrong. Would not be the first time.
If you could do it you would be.
Youth football programs need volunteers.
Go on, give it a shot and see how easy it is.
I mean, if you can run an elite D1 program at a successful level then surely you can dominate on a smaller scale.
I would absolutely LOVE to see you take a crack at it.
As it is now, you're just another Monday morning blowhard who can't appreciate the success of others nor understand the pressures and challenges that they deal with in the course of maintaining that success. In short, you just like to complain and minimize the accomplishments of successful people.
Quite telling really.
PS - The childish down votes don't bother me a bit. In fact, I take them as a compliment from the likes of some of you guys. After all, thats your MO in life.
This post was edited by CrimsonHeart 21 months ago
You see, this is where you've completely taken the gist of the original post completely out of context. Don't worry, judging from other responses in this thread you aren't alone.
Where did I or anyone else ever say we could coach this team any better than BGBS? Where? I have never said that. I've also never said BGBS "needs to go". I believe he is the best man for the job at OU right now.
What have I said?
I've said that the changes the coaches made were pretty obvious to those of us that watch and support the team. In fact, they were so obvious that they were made, we are winning (in a big way), and we as fans and posters on this board were correct in our observation, assessment and expected outcome after implementation. What is wrong with that? A lot of miserable people on this board will contend that I have somewhere said that what BGBS is doing is easy and I'm saying I can do better....do you fall into this category? Because that's not what was said at all. I was merely congratulating the board, as a whole, for being pretty darn astute to this game and our team.
It's sad commentary on life when a bunch of guys, with huge sticks up their asses, can't come together on a public message board and have fun discussing a game that means nothing in the whole of things that really matter.
You started to lose me with your comment about "matching wits" with our coaches and coming out ahead.
No doubt you need a level of intelligence to coach at high levels, but that's just one tool out of many that are required to succeed as a coach, or frankly in any leadership position. High IQ does not mean great leader or great coach.
Furthermore, I understand you didn't take it that far - but others in this thread drove it to more extreme positions. The all knowing BYRLK was pretty clear in his belief that he is capable of being a successful D1 coach. Bigsooner seems to think they are all in position as a matter of luck. I don't see you disagreeing with them, I see you disagreeing with me. Thus my assumption you think they are right and I am wrong.
If I misread your position I apologize.
Actually, it is pretty much what was said, in the title of the thread, at least. "Are we smarter..."
I would also point out that it was originally the coaching staff who stated that Trey should and would be more of the gameplan BEFORE it caught fire on this board.
Why it didn't happen sooner? Who knows, but I do know that we are not going through the grind of game-planning, practice, grade monitoring, player development, and being surrogate father figure to college kids every day of the week. I can only assume that the coaches have reasons for their decisions based on them having 100x more information than any of us.
I wouldnt dream of watching any of you do your jobs for 4 hours each week and then believe Im qualified to question your decisions - in fact I bet you would take offense. And rightly so.
I guess that makes me extreme or something. Whatever.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by CrimsonHeart 21 months ago
Don't know PIlate but why couldn't he be smarter than our coaches. Bob has excelled in his profession and the others have all done a great job. Coaching football doesn't require a high degree of intelligience. It requires a bunch of attributes that more intelligient people don't possess and thus couldn't coach football nearly as well.
I have met all of our staff except Kittle and Kish. I have known most of them for the last 30 years and as a general rule they are nowhere near as smart as the professionals I work with everyday. I believe I'm more intelligient than they are and I know for a fact I'm not as intelligient as several of my colleagues. By the way Bob has told us in a small group he isn't smart enough to understand what we are talking about. I guarantee we could all go and learn from him in the football offices. NO I COULDN'T THEN GO BE A HEAD OR ASSISTANT COACH. By the way this is why Bob hired Kittle. He is obviously very smart (based on his many careers) and is why Bob hired him with no experience with football in the last years.
And even if we were stupid sometimes our suggestions make sense.
This post was edited by vbdad 21 months ago
Where did I use the word luck? Being an athlete at a Div 1 school has built in advantages that other people who want to break into the big time coaching profession don't have.
Try to comprehend the post before making such comments.
I'm a real adult fan, not like all you other spoiled babies. You don't know anything about me, but I can make wild accusations about you.
I think of it like this:
Are we smarter than the coaches? Heck No
If my 401k is performing at 2% for the year when most are averaging 8-12% it's easy to say I need better performance out of my 401k. Solving the problem is much harder. Do I invest in large and mid cap companies or go more risky with small cap or international funds? Do I diversify and go 25% into Large cap, 25% Mid cap, 25% Small cap, and 25% international like Dave Ramsey says? Much easier to diagnose, a lot tougher to treat.
The coaches, I'm sure wanted to be able to run the ball. The big question they had was how to accomplish it in an efficient manner with whom they are playing, the blocking keys, and the RB reads. It's easy to sit on the sideline and say we must do x,y, or z better. Solving the problem is a much more complex issue.
We have a top 5 coaching staff in the country. They are going to have their ups and downs but as I sit back and watch some of the changes that have been made I'm very optimistic with the status of the program that Bob is running from the top down.
This post was edited by smitty1515 21 months ago
Are we smarter than coaches when it comes to football ? No way , but does that mean that our observations are wrong ? no way . Where the problems come in are that we forget that coaches are human and have faults ,just like we all do. Where we see something and ask for change ,we are just going with what our eyes see . Where as the coaches have alot of things that get in the way such as egos ,stubborness , trying to show loyalty to certain players , trying to set an example to others etc .... Coaches just like normal people have favorites , they might think i guy needs to work harder in practice , or has put in his dues and is an uperclassman . So in no way are we smarter , but that doesnt mean we are always wrong and they are always right .
But don't you agree that having real experience in a D1 program as a player does indeed help prepare someone to coach at that level if they choose to pursue that career?
The advantage that comes with that experience makes sense to me.
It's also possible for outsiders to break in and be successful if they are willing to pay their dues and they are good enough. See Mike Leach.
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