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Chuck Fairbanks

  • Why is he the forgotten man in the line of successful OU coaches? He took over from Jim Mackensie and ended his career at OU with two 11-1 seasons in a row prior to his leaving for the NFL.

    BeachSooner

  • check his 1972 recruiting class out!!!!!!!

    jimbo Elrod

  • He didn't stay long and he left. Prior to those 11-1 seasons, there were "chuck, Chuck" bumper stickers in Norman.

    This post was edited by OU MAJOR on 7/18/2012 at 7:37 AM

    OU MAJOR

  • he got us on probation

    cost us badly

    powervault

  • powervault said...

    he got us on probation

    cost us badly

    And so did Bob Stoops. Weren't we given the tag initially "failure to monitor while under Stoops"? Really a cheap shot there.

    Fairbanks was a very good leader. He was great in many areas and had stints at New England and Colorado. Fairbanks was also a very fine man and commanded respect from his peers and the national media much like Bob and not like Barry.

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  • I don't recall our being put on probation under Bob or having the dreaded "Failure to monitor" charge. I knew Chuck personally. His daughter got married and moved into a city I was coaching in. Chuck asked me to rent them a house and he would pay for it. I got the house rented, bought a bottle of champaigne and left it in the refrigerator for them. I never heard from Chuck again. He was a bit of a cold fish.

    HTown

  • HTown said...

    I don't recall our being put on probation under Bob or having the dreaded "Failure to monitor" charge. I knew Chuck personally. His daughter got married and moved into a city I was coaching in. Chuck asked me to rent them a house and he would pay for it. I got the house rented, bought a bottle of champaigne and left it in the refrigerator for them. I never heard from Chuck again. He was a bit of a cold fish.

    In those 11-1 years he must have had a pretty good offensive coordinator.

    SoonerNM

  • SoonerNM said...

    In those 11-1 years he must have had a pretty good offensive coordinator.

    As I'm sure you recall, OU switched to the wishbone under Fairbanks, and it was that OC you mentioned who convinced Chuck that they had a QB in Jack Mildren ideally suited to run it.

    "Burnt orange makes me puke!" - Mother Teresa (unverified)

    VladTheEmailer

  • Fairbanks took over for McKenzie and in 1967 went 11-1, beat Tennessee in the Orange Bowl and finished 2nd in the nation. He then went to bowl games every year but 1969. He was the man in charge when OU made the momentous decision to switch to the wishbone. He was the man in charge of perhaps our greatest team: the 1971 team that still holds offensive records that may never be broken. He coached for 6 seasons, and brought us back to national prominence.
    He did get us on probation, but not to the extent Barry did. I'll never understand why he has seemingly been ostracized, while Barry is the patron saint of Oklahoma football.
    If Chuck had accomplished those feats at any other school, he would be in their Hall of Fame.
    Not a slam towards Barry (he is a great coach and a great man), just a simple comparison.

    brosooner

  • HTown said...

    I don't recall our being put on probation under Bob or having the dreaded "Failure to monitor" charge. I knew Chuck personally. His daughter got married and moved into a city I was coaching in. Chuck asked me to rent them a house and he would pay for it. I got the house rented, bought a bottle of champaigne and left it in the refrigerator for them. I never heard from Chuck again. He was a bit of a cold fish.

    How quickly we forget:

    Oklahoma Football Forfeits Wins From '05

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    Oklahoma must erase its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years, the NCAA said yesterday.

    The penalties stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team last August for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership. The NCAA said Oklahoma was guilty of a "failure to monitor" the employment of the players.

    My point is we don't know if Fairbanks was any more involved than Stoops in the Bomar fiasco.

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  • From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_Sooners_football

    Jones-MacKenzie-Fairbanks era (1964–1972)
    Wilkinson's assistant coach, Gomer Jones, took over as head coach in 1964, a move Wilkinson engineered himself. His first year would prove to be a sharp contrast from Wilkinson's early years as the Sooners went 6–4–1.[16] The season saw them start 1–3 with three consecutive losses to Southern California, Texas and Kansas. But the hardest loss came in the Gator Bowl to Florida State. Prior to the game, it was found that four of the better players had signed professional football contracts before their college eligibility had expired. Those four were dismissed from the team prior to the bowl game.[17] Oklahoma lost this game 36–19. The next season's team fared no better, going 3–7, Oklahoma's worst record, percentage wise, since it went 0–1 its inaugural season in 1895. This brought the Jones era to a quick close, although he did remain at Oklahoma as the athletic director, a role he also held when he was head coach.
    Following Jones's 9–11–1 record, Oklahoma brought in a young coach from the University of Arkansas named Jim Mackenzie. He wanted discipline for his team so he set a curfew for his players and required them to enroll in physical education class.[18] His season saw an improvement from the previous, but it still did not meet the expectations of Sooner football that Wilkinson had set. The 1966 team went 6–4 with a win in the Red River Shootout over rival Texas coached by former Oklahoma defensive back Darrell Royal, their first win over Texas since 1957. They also beat the number four team in the nation, rival Nebraska by a score of 10–9. The 1966 season showed promise for the young coach, but, on April 28, 1967, at the age of 37, Mackenzie died of a heart attack.
    After the 1964 season, Chuck Fairbanks, an assistant coach at the University of Houston, was offered a job at Tennessee. He wanted to accept, but it was the middle of the summer and unusually late for a coaching move, so he decided to stay loyal to Houston and he remained there. After the next season, he was offered a position as an assistant on Mackenzie's staff at Oklahoma, a position he felt was a better job than the Tennessee position.[19] Immediately after the 1965 season, Fairbanks was offered a job at Missouri with the promise that he would be the head coach within four years.[19] He declined and stayed at Oklahoma. Four months later, Coach Mackenzie died and Fairbanks was named head coach. It did not take long for Fairbanks to turn the team around. His first season, in 1967, his squad went 10–1. They entered their sixth game with a 5–1 record (their only loss was a two point loss coming to rival Texas) and unranked[20] and beat ninth ranked Colorado, 23–0. This propelled Fairbanks's team to a number eight ranking. They continued their romp through the season and beat the number two team in the country Tennessee 26–24 in the Orange Bowl. They finished the season ranked number three in the country.
    Fairbanks lost four games in each of the next three seasons. Despite the relatively mediocre record of those years, several great players came through Fairbanks' program. One of those players was Steve Owens. Owens was born in Gore, Oklahoma in 1947. After an impressive year in 1969, despite Oklahoma's record, Owens was named the Sooners' second Heisman Trophy winner. Many[who?] believe that Owens saved Fairbanks' career by helping defeat rival Oklahoma State.[8]
    It did not take long for Fairbanks to return the team to form. His 1970 team tied Bear Bryant's Alabama team in the Bluebonnet Bowl to finish as the number 20 team in the country. They began the 1971 season ranked number ten. In consecutive weeks, they beat number 17 Southern California, number three Texas, and number six Colorado.
    These early-season wins propelled them to a number two national ranking and set the stage for one of the great college football games of the century against top-ranked Nebraska.[21] Oklahoma was led by quarterback Jack Mildren and running back Greg Pruitt. The team was a scoring machine, averaging 44.5 points per game, the second highest in team history.[22] Equally impressive that season was Pruitt's nine yards per carry. On November 25, 1971, Nebraska edged Oklahoma, 35–31 in what was to be the only loss of the season for Oklahoma. Oklahoma went on to beat Oklahoma State and fifth ranked Auburn to finish the season ranked number two.
    Fairbanks closed out his career at Oklahoma the following year with a win in the Sugar Bowl over Penn State after having lost once all season, to Colorado. Following this season, Fairbanks accepted a position with the NFL's New England Patriots....

    The Wikipedia article goes on to deal with Switzer and OU's NCAA probation for altering transcripts (which Fairbanks denied knowing anything about)

    BeachSooner

  • SoonerPeace said...

    How quickly we forget:

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    Oklahoma must erase its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years, the NCAA said yesterday.

    The penalties stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team last August for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership. The NCAA said Oklahoma was guilty of a "failure to monitor" the employment of the players.

    My point is we don't know if Fairbanks was any more involved than Stoops in the Bomar fiasco.

    Not familiar with Chuck as I was too young to know what was going on but I do know that the system was not as sophisticated then as it is now and sure most successful programs stretched the rules back then but I can not believe that Stoops knew anything about the Bomar business. 17,000 dollars is what I remember he received and that is an amount that would be easy to hide from the coaches as far as extravagant purchases go.

    oufisherman

  • oufisherman said...

    Not familiar with Chuck as I was too young to know what was going on but I do know that the system was not as sophisticated then as it is now and sure most successful programs stretched the rules back then but I can not believe that Stoops knew anything about the Bomar business. 17,000 dollars is what I remember he received and that is an amount that would be easy to hide from the coaches as far as extravagant purchases go.

    My point exactly is we went on probation because a recruits transcript was altered to get him in by an assistant. Fairbanks is a straight arrow guy and likely was unaware. My point is that my response was to someone who said Fairbanks put us on probation. My response is it is no different than Stoops as we indeed went on probation under his watch as well.

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  • BeachSooner said...

    Why is he the forgotten man in the line of successful OU coaches? He took over from Jim Mackensie and ended his career at OU with two 11-1 seasons in a row prior to his leaving for the NFL.

    As I recall, his personality was such that the fans didn't like him and were glad to see him leave.

    colmark

  • He was an excellent coach and should be honored. After reading his accomplishments with OU anyone who says otherwise is just trying to tarnish and image that doesn't deserve to be tarnished.

    hooknladder

  • SoonerPeace said...

    My point exactly is we went on probation because a recruits transcript was altered to get him in by an assistant. Fairbanks is a straight arrow guy and likely was unaware. My point is that my response was to someone who said Fairbanks put us on probation. My response is it is no different than Stoops as we indeed went on probation under his watch as well.

    I was thinking that is what you meant. Like I said I don't know much about coach Fairbanks and never heard anything bad so I guess that is a positive.

    oufisherman

  • Kerry Jackson's high school coach and administrators altered his transcript ! Not OU!

    jimbo Elrod

  • Chuck is one of OU's greatest coaches, no question. But Barry is the one that urged and convinced him to switch to the wishbone, in late september, which saved their jobs and started a dynasty.

    SoonerBlub

  • Loved Fairbanks of course coz of coming in after Mackenzie's passing and taking OU to the Orange Bowl and winning.
    Living in Denver, didnt get to see much other than the sports page writeups till THE SEASON of 71.
    Wished him well in the pros, was alittle disconcerted to see him go to Boulder?!?!?!
    Still think its a funny story that in 1980 when OU clobbered CU 82-40 or something, that Fairbanks sent message across the field to Switzer to layoff the scoring, so Switzer more or less did.

    JayDenver

  • jimbo Elrod said...

    Kerry Jackson's high school coach and administrators altered his transcript ! Not OU!

    I recall this incident - it was Kerry Jackson's high school coaches that altered his transcript, not any of the coaches at OU. Since the NCAA doesn't control high schools, they punished OU instead. I think we had to forfeit the wins from 1973, and led to the TV ban in 1974. This is why the 1974 team was called 'the greatest team that no one ever saw'. They weren't allowed to be on TV.

    DESooner247

  • Man great topic! I underestimated his career at OU! Thanks a ton for bringing this up. I have much more respect for Coach Fairbanks than I did this morning.

    lenbias1

  • DESooner247 said...

    I recall this incident - it was Kerry Jackson's high school coaches that altered his transcript, not any of the coaches at OU. Since the NCAA doesn't control high schools, they punished OU instead. I think we had to forfeit the wins from 1973, and led to the TV ban in 1974. This is why the 1974 team was called 'the greatest team that no one ever saw'. They weren't allowed to be on TV.

    I thought I remembered that , although the high school people changed the transcript, one of our ass't coaches had found out about the transcript change and did not report it. That was what we got penalized for.

    BoomerinMidloth

  • BoomerinMidloth said...

    I thought I remembered that , although the high school people changed the transcript, one of our ass't coaches had found out about the transcript change and did not report it. That was what we got penalized for.

    I was only in 9th grade when that happened, but I do remember it. And it STILL irks me to this day that the myth of that probation is that OU was paying players. I don't recall any official sanctions for that back then, but you sure heard the "OU cheats!" nonsense out of Austin and Stillwater constantly in the early 70's.

    NMSooner80