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Breaking News: BigXII/SEC "Rose Bowl" Arrangement

  • So...what changed to allow these two conferences to announce new bowl affiliations?

    JoeFla

  • JoeFla said...

    So...what changed to allow these two conferences to announce new bowl affiliations?

    The B1G, P12, and Rose using its weight to heavily influence the playoff discussion. This SEC/B12 game has been in informal discussion since 2004; with playoffs coming soon and major decisions still to be made, creating this game helps create a voting block to counter the B1G/P12/Rose block. Very shrewd move by the B12 and SEC leaders.

    kwest2 ●

  • kwest2 said...

    The B1G, P12, and Rose using its weight to heavily influence the playoff discussion. This SEC/B12 game has been in informal discussion since 2004; with playoffs coming soon and major decisions still to be made, creating this game helps create a voting block to counter the B1G/P12/Rose block. Very shrewd move by the B12 and SEC leaders.

    Thanks kwest.

    I guess my question is, for the last few years conference teams have been slotted into prearranged bowls by their record, ranking and desirability. For example, we knew the BigXll champ was going to the Fiesta. I don't know if that was a contract between the conference and the bowl, the conference and the NCAA, the BCS, or who? But....what changed to allow two conferences to determine their own fate?

    Are all bowl affiliations suddenly up for grabs? Or can we suddenly create our own bowl game outside the stucture of the NCAA or BCS?

    What changed? Or did the two conferences sign a contract with each other and now they will take it to a negotiating table to try to affect the change?

    This post was edited by JoeFla on 5/18/2012 at 6:00 PM

    JoeFla

  • OK, now I see. According to the Palm Beach Post this morning the Bowl contracts expire at the end of the 2013 season. Looks like it could end up being a free for all.

    JoeFla

  • kwest2 said...

    The B1G, P12, and Rose using its weight to heavily influence the playoff discussion. This SEC/B12 game has been in informal discussion since 2004; with playoffs coming soon and major decisions still to be made, creating this game helps create a voting block to counter the B1G/P12/Rose block. Very shrewd move by the B12 and SEC leaders.

    Makes perfect sense... At what point does the B1G/P12 union and the Big 12/SEC union begin to make ND a little nervous. It may get to the point that if they can't make the Top 4, then they may be relegated to a minor bowl game.

    I will be very curious to see how the new bowl affliations work out. Seems to me that ND, the ACC and the Big Least are moving to the fringe.

    Florida State, are you listening?

    NCJIM

  • Excellent point!

    BeachSooner ●

  • Oh no, another huge mistake by Boren. He has been played again.

    wmdky

  • I love it! This and the 4 team playoff??? As close to perfect as college football can get IMO!

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    Things are rarely perfect or totally bad. Reality=closer to the middle. Never as bad as it seems, never as good as it seems.

    hoodleehoo

  • This is much ado about nothing. It will rarely ever happen.

    tatertot

  • After having a day or so to read all the analyses, I now see this as more than the game itself as I stated in my earlier post, but more about the endgame. It would appear that more conference realignments may occur as a direct result of this announcement, and that seems to bode well for the Big 12.

    Good move!

    "Burnt orange makes me puke!" - Mother Teresa (unverified)

    VladTheEmailer

  • VladTheEmailer said...

    After having a day or so to read all the analyses, I now see this as more than the game itself as I stated in my earlier post, but more about the endgame. It would appear that more conference realignments may occur as a direct result of this announcement, and that seems to bode well for the Big 12.

    Good move!

    Thank goodness! I was beginning to think it was just another miserable, embarrassing failure on the part of Boren and the OU administration.

    Seriously, it seems a long time ago that many were going apoplectic because OU didn't jump to the PAC12 or SEC and we would be relegated to a life as a second class program in a dying conference and the OU president and administration was being played daily by the west coast brain trust.

    I agree that, at first impression at least, it seems this is a very smart move and will pay off big in the long term--especially since the BCS finally seems to be coming to its senses.

    One has to wonder, though, if the flirtation with the PAC 12 by OU and others last year might have helped get the Big 10 off of its total anti playoff position--opening the door for the current playoff possibility. (The phrase 'power shift' comes to mind)

    In any event, I still feel those who constantly screamed and cried that Boren was being played by the west coast folks and that it was an embarrassment to OU and would ruin the football program should publically apologize. But I know they won't.

    wmdky

  • I know there are alot of folks talking about how this game is pointless because it rarely will happen, but I disagree, having a solid Big 12/SEC runner up match is VERY good for the Big 12, it gives the Big 12 the ability to get a yearly marquis game with that conference that everyone says is the best in the world, and gives the Big 12 a chance to show it belongs in that discussion. Even if this game matches number 2's it is about perception, if our 2's beat their 2's then the Big 12 still gains. I also think that the SEC may be surprised at the outcomes, especially the way the schedules run. I maintain that overall the Big 12's round robin schedule will make its conf schedule tougher thanthe SEC, especially now with the addition of two more average schools to the SEC. The better teams now have even more opportunity to duck each other and you will see years where a weaker team from one division will get in the championship game and lose, then go and face a Big 12 number 1 or 2 that will be much better tested.

    MDS00NER

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