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Woman gets 10 yrs in prison for selling $31 worth of weed

  • On one hand, don't sell drugs. Especially around kids.

    On the other hand, it's grass. $31 dollars worth of plant.

    Seems excessive to me. Sounds like a power happy judge trying to send a message.

    Libertarians, how much is 3 years worth of prison (she can parole in 2014) gonna cost Joe Public?

    How $31 of pot gave mom a 10-year-prison sentence | NewsOK.com

    TAFT Because of $31 in marijuana sales, Patricia Marilyn Spottedcrow is now serving 10 years in prison, has been taken away from her four young children and husband, and has ended her work in nursing homes.

    newsok.com

    soonermaverick

  • Depending on the state, it can range from 30K to 40K per year per inmate. So, her sinful crime could cost taxpayers $120,000 after 3 years. Not to mention, her kids will be without their mother for at least 3 years. She won't be able to get a job when she gets out, so she'll probably try selling drugs again.

    TIMB0B

  • This is a tough one, particularly since children were present. However, the problem is that each county in the state treats cases differently. If this case were in Oklahoma or Cleveland County, there would not be any prison time. Instead, the defendant would be required to attend a lot of counseling in an effort to rid her of the drug problem. DHS would most likely be involved, and the mom would have to work with DHS to show that she is fit to have custody of her children. In my opinion, this lady should never have been sentenced to 10 years in prison. This is absurd.

    This also shows why our state ranks so high for women incarceration rates. If she were a repeat offender, then it would make sense to require her to serve some time, but not for a first time offender. Unfortunately, in our state, it all depends on where you get arrested. Smaller counties tend to be harder on criminals than the larger counties. Perhaps if some of the power hungry judges in our state would not look at prison time as the first solution and instead would look at drug rehab, drug court, counseling and other types of progams, we could decrease our prison population.

    OUatty

  • Your last sentence says it all TIM.

    There is nothing more dangerous in this world than a man with nothing to lose.

    bruthaman

  • she should have gotten 30-60 days in jail at most....
    and make it clear the second offense will be longer...

    87sooner

  • I doubt the first opportunity to sell weed happened to be to an undercover officer. That was probably the 1000th transaction she made before the cops became involved. Distributing drugs is far more serious than being a user. Counseling is for addicts who use the drug. That's not what this allegation is. Dope dealers need to go to jail. Users need counseling.

    schooner9

  • schooner9 said...

    I doubt the first opportunity to sell weed happened to be to an undercover officer. That was probably the 1000th transaction she made before the cops became involved. Distributing drugs is far more serious than being a user. Counseling is for addicts who use the drug. That's not what this allegation is. Dope dealers need to go to jail. Users need counseling.

    What about pharmacists and doctors?

    TIMB0B

  • TIMB0B said...

    What about pharmacists and doctors?

    Dope dealers need to go to jail.

    I think DOPE is the key word here.

    “Any people anywhere........have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better.”

    zeeb10

  • What is dope?

    TIMB0B

  • How much of a threat to the public is a small time pot dealer? If you live in Kingfisher, how much safer do you feel now that a nickel and dime marijuana dealer is behind bars for 3 years? LMAO. That sentence is absurd no matter how you look at it or not matter how many dimebags of pot she has sold up to this point.....it's marijuana for heaven's sake, and when is the last time pot has killed anyone? First time offender should be fine and supervised probation but with the children involved maybe a few weekends in jail and DHS involvement but prison time.....ridiculous.

    ImBaack

  • ImBaack said...

    How much of a threat to the public is a small time pot dealer? If you live in Kingfisher, how much safer do you feel now that a nickel and dime marijuana dealer is behind bars for 3 years? LMAO. That sentence is absurd no matter how you look at it or not matter how many dimebags of pot she has sold up to this point.....it's marijuana for heaven's sake, and when is the last time pot has killed anyone? First time offender should be fine and supervised probation but with the children involved maybe a few weekends in jail and DHS involvement but prison time.....ridiculous.

    I think using and selling illicit drugs is wrong. I know that I may he old fashioned. I may be in the minority. However it's my value system. I am no better than anyone else, I just know that intoxicants destroy families and I don't like it.

    schooner9

  • Yeah I still can't believe this.

    For you criminal lawyers, can a person appeal a sentencing after pleading guilty?

    soonermaverick

  • TIMB0B said...

    What about pharmacists and doctors?

    There is a difference between drug dealers and doctors/pharmacist. I am not going to waste my time and attempt to spell out the obvious differences. Explaining that to someone who can't differentiate between the two is like trying to explain the space shuttle to a retarded aborigine.

    schooner9

  • Using and/or selling drugs is wrong and against the law......but 3 years (minimum) in prison for a first time marijuana offender is too much punishment. That's like grounding your kid for a year for missing curfew one time, I don't care how anti-drug you are. 3 years probation is more like it.

    ImBaack

  • ImBaack said...

    Using and/or selling drugs is wrong and against the law......but 3 years (minimum) in prison for a first time marijuana offender is too much punishment. That's like grounding your kid for a year for missing curfew one time, I don't care how anti-drug you are. 3 years probation is more like it.

    Especially when the judge is probably lighting one up a couple of times per month.

    There is nothing more dangerous in this world than a man with nothing to lose.

    bruthaman

  • schooner9 said...

    I think using and selling illicit drugs is wrong. I know that I may he old fashioned. I may be in the minority. However it's my value system. I am no better than anyone else, I just know that intoxicants destroy families and I don't like it.

    You should advocate for bringing back alcohol prohibition.

    TIMB0B

  • schooner9 said...

    There is a difference between drug dealers and doctors/pharmacist. I am not going to waste my time and attempt to spell out the obvious differences. Explaining that to someone who can't differentiate between the two is like trying to explain the space shuttle to a retarded aborigine.

    The difference is having a license. Or in other words, having government approval.

    TIMB0B

  • TIMB0B said...

    You should advocate for bringing back alcohol prohibition.

    Don't say that or you might get the religious people all riled up wanting to start making a list of things to add to the law books.

    Suprised Obama isn't all over this kind of thing. Think about the economic impact more laws would bring; more law enforcement, more laywers, more judges, more prisons and jails. That's a lot of new jobs, eh? With the addition of a bergeoning black market as the result, we could then hire even more officers, jailers and the like. This could be another jobs stimulis.

    Only problem is, somebody forgot to tell Obama that public sector jobs take money OUT of the economy via taxes to pay for them.

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • bruthaman said...

    Your last sentence says it all TIM.

    Hey bro, nice to see you posting somewhere other than your usual thing. Personally, I love to be able join hands with others in a common cause for good as much as is possible. Doesn't it feel good to be in agreement with others despite the color of the skin ?

    Sorry ! Not trying to change the subject or HIGH JACK here. LOL Just trying to promote some brotherly love.

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • TIMB0B said...

    The difference is having a license. Or in other words, having government approval.

    Next time you become ill with the flu, go see your drug dealer. At that point you may figure out there may be more of a difference.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by schooner9 on 2/22/2011 at 12:55 PM

    schooner9

  • schooner9 said...

    Next time you become ill with the flu, go see your drug dealer. At that point you may figure out there may be more of a difference.

    What? That prescription drugs have harmful side-effects, while weed is harmless?

    soonerE

  • Thera-Flu. Aisle 3. Walgreens. No in-between guy needed.

    My concern is taxpayer dollars that go to waste to fix something that will never end...the war on drugs...and it has only created more crime and danger along our border.

    I don't do drugs, but if I did, it's none of your business nor the government's what I put into my body. Otherwise, if you'd like, I could come over to your house, go through your cabinets and refrigerator, and throw out everything I think is unhealthy for you.

    TIMB0B

  • Yikes. What is the going rate for rape...3 years?

    OUpinkKitty

  • $31 in weed. If its good stuff, that's between 1-2 grams. If it's normal cheap stuff, it could have been 10-15 grams. Im guessing its over 10 grams. Which amounts to almost a year per gram, obviously excessive. For that stuff, a cop should just tell her to dump it and be on with her way. but selling is a big deal these days. Dang that really sucks. I should write her a letter.

    I believe stat rape is 5-20 years, and up to life for more egregious rapes. Dealing a grams of happy grass should be a slap on the wrist!

    It's 420 somewhere

    Midnight Toker

  • Lol@ marijuana destroying families too. The overzealous judge is too blame this time. Yes, the woman broke the law and should be punished but c'mon....if you don't think her sentence is excessive, you're in the wrong country imo.

    ImBaack