O'Connell's Off Topic

Wow, never knew that existed. Why do black people have their own national anthem?

Same reason they have their own month I guess..

It is racism.

The reason black history isnt taught is to further entrench white superiority. It makes black people want live close to and be like white folks, but we arent for the most part accepted as such. OJ simpson learned that fact quick, fast and in a hurry during his trial. We have plenty of documetation to teach it, thats why they offer and teach it in college. That being said, not everyone goes to college.

You are correct, we sold each other into "service" under the conditions that we were going to be treated as workers, not less than animals.

I dont know if they were mad or not. We were being traded under the premise of work, not less than human treatment. Are black americans mad today? Nope, our knowledge of our homeland has been beaten and taught out of us. Our connection with Africa was taken away and anyone that would try re-established that connection was undermined by the FBI and stupid black people that would spy for them. You saw that in the Marcus Garvey and Black Panther Party stories.

No, they arent as guilty. If I give sell you a dog, I am thinking you are going to take care of that dog and raise it with love and care. Now, if you decide to beat, fight, burn and skin that dog alive, why should I be guilty? I thought you were going to treat the dog well but you turned out be the scum of the earth and treated the dog really bad. So, are we mad today, nope. Not at all.

Why dont the other races feel a need to talk about it? Well, their cultures have remained in tact for the most part. They remember their homeland and traditions. We were treated differently. We were brought here, we were bred to create the best slave possible. Reggie White and Serena Williams, in love of not, had to breed to make a better product. Then, after they had a couple of kids, they were killed so that they couldnt teach anything about the homeland. In place of that teaching was whatever the white decided. That decision was that everything white was good and everything black was bad. White was human, black was less than an animal, property. We are still trying to overcome that superior/subordinate relationship to this very day. Thats why we want our history told and told in a way that we want it told, not white people. It may be explosive, but it will benefit us greatly.

A couple of questions for you;

1. What would significant history?
2. Are you saying black history shouldnt be taught because we dont have enough contributions?

What part of black history is being left out of school? What major historical events did I miss in school that otherwise wouldn't allow this further "entrenchment"? If you truly believe your first sentence then you have no interest in progress.

Spare us all this fictional tale about Africans selling each other into "service". You can't for a second believe that. The fact that one person is selling another should be the red flag, but if that wasn't enough seeing their fellow Africans chained together and stacked on ships probably gave them a pretty good idea of what was going on. Its ok to admit that. No country or continent has a perfect record.

And please don't bring up these tales of the FBI and then attempt to make the black panthers credible witnesses. They aren't interested in progress either.

No one is saying that black history shouldn't be taught because of lack of contributions, but what current curriculum do you want bumped in favor of black history? WWII? The Civil War? The Revolutionary War? Washington? Lincoln? Roosevelt? The Declaration of Independence?

Nothing further needs to be said.

I do nothing to promote racism in the least. Quite the opposite in fact.

As for division, my message is all together positive in that it concerns the Christ who has torn down the walls of separation that have always divided men in every single way.

Where people become divided in regards to my message is in choosing or rejecting God and His way, and truth and life. It is not my intention or objective nor God's to CAUSE division. Division here is simply the natural response to the rejection of the hope and glory for all men. Those who oppose God and His saving grace are the culprits, not God nor my message about God.

Your implication would be to denigrate the one who wishes to save lives as in the folowing illustration ; Me saying "The bridge is out up ahead. All who do not want to perish, please turn to the right." Then, when many refuse and instead keep on going towards the drop off. , you would stand back and shout "You are wrong for causing this division amoung these men." It would be rediculous in such a case for someone to sit back and insult the man trying to save each and every one by proclaiming the truth of the impending danger simply on the basis that some would listen and some would not.

If you look at Jesus' ministry, many times even after mircales and raising the dead it would say of the on lookers, "and the people were divided". This is an unaviodable issue that no man can escape in choosing or rejecting God and on that basis men will always be divided.

If you want to say I CAUSE divisions, than that is certainly your unreasonable prerogative.

I was referring more to the fact that "your approach" wasn't real effective.

Your first sentence is rediculous. What's crazy is that you actually believe it. OJ is a murderer and even most black people realize that. Can't believe you would use him as an example.

AFAM shoudn't even be a degree, it's a joke and a complete waste of time. Everyone tries to take them as electives because they're basically blow-off classes.

The "service" think is laughable. You know good and well that the people sold were already slaves. And most likely treated way worse than they were treated here. African tribes are STILL practicing mass genocide, rape, and inequality today. You think they were more civil 300 years ago?

1. Don't know what this question means. Significant history is self-explanatory.
2. I'm saying there should be no such thing as "black" history, or "white" history, or "green" history. Only history.

1. The question isnt self expanatory. What do you consider significant history?
2. You are right, there shouldnt be, but due to the way history is written and taught by your forfathers, that need is now necessary.

You miss the point on OJ. Its not a matter of if he is a murderer or not, its how quickly his white friends showed him how white he was when he was accused. The verdict is irrelevant in this arguement. How the country was divided along racial lines is.

I havent ignored our dark past at all. In many of the stories i have posted, it shows how we have undermined our own progress by accepting deals with the white man. It happened to Garvey and the Black Panthers. It happened to MLK and Malcolm X too. Thats our dark past is giving in to the white mans desire for our own selfish needs. There were sellouts planted in almost every black organization that was trying to get some black unity and pride going. Thats our dark past. Not the tribal cheifs. Remember, we were brainwashed of our knowledge of our homeland by killing all the adults slaves so they couldnt teach our traditions to our children.

Now, I focus on what has happened in America, but I guess to make you guys feel better, you want to talk about what happened in Africa before we got here to try to take blame away from your racist savage land stealing forefathers. Well, you have heard it here first. In whatever capacity we were traded, sold or stolen, your pick, whoever did it to us is scum. I dont care if it was a tribal cheif or the captain of the Amistad. They are all the same.

I want accurate history for black people. If the others want it, they should speak up. The others havent been through what black people have for as long as we have and again, our families were killed in order to keep us from teaching our history and to allow the white man to fill our brains with untruths. Victors write the history.

No we arent. Youre winning that one too. The battle is in the courts and we lose that one way more often than not. So, you lose again.

To get back on topic, the Black National Anthem is a great song. I am very proud of it and I am glad we have it. The only fault I have with it is that it isnt heard enough. Hopefully, that will change.