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Peace...

  • We all seek peace in every area of our environment in our homes, at work, in the city, state, nation and the world, while shopping or even while driving from place to place.

    How is peace obtained and realized? Is it through the ideologues of politicians and the implementation of their laws ? Is it in accepting the ways and morals of all people despite the many contradictions and differences?

    I submit to you the answer but it is for you to accept or deny. Since true peace has never existed in this world I have to conclude that it is not truly possible for men which leads me and hopefully others to the answer and the truth. The answer is Jesus and you can see how so in His title as the King of peace and the King of righteousness. It is no small coincidence that these two names go together because true righteousness brings true peace. Therefore, without true righteousness there can be no true peace. Righteousness here means that which is according to both God’s will and His established standards of right and wrong.

    The idea of accepting one another in their own subjective ideas of morality as the way for peace is a deceptive and impractical contradiction. At best it is only a cover up and a false peace because true peace requires true harmony. There can be no true harmony between people of extreme difference and contradiction.

    Thus, true peace will never be realized for men until the day the King of peace and righteousness establishes His kingdom upon the earth based upon His standards of righteousness.

    In the meantime what can we do? The best we can do is to respect and love one another despite our differences in a sort of truce. As Christians however, we can enjoy the fellowship of the Lord and His kingdom and righteousness even now within our spirit not only between He and us individually but also corporately in the “body of Christ”. We can actually walk in and enjoy His kingdom now as our spiritual reality while waiting and praying for and ushering in His return along with the manifestation of that kingdom soon to come.

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    soonerman504

  • dm, this is a great piece of work. One of your best piece's I've read.

    soonerprices

  • soonerprices said...

    dm, this is a great piece of work. One of your best piece's I've read.

    Just a few scriptures for you, soonerprices since I find no reason to respond to the other guy.

    You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

    Will your idle talk reduce men to silence? Will no one rebuke you when you
    mock? ... When you mock God, shouldn't someone make you ashamed?

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

    Fools mock at making amends for sin, but goodwill is found among the upright. ... Fools
    mock at the guilt offering, but the upright enjoy acceptance.

    Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • Sorry duplicate post

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by soonerman504 on 2/28/2011 at 1:53 PM

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • soonerprices said...

    dm, this is a great piece of work. One of your best piece's I've read.

    sorry, duplicate

    This post was edited by soonerman504 on 2/28/2011 at 1:51 PM

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    soonerman504

  • soonerman504 said...

    Just a few scriptures for you, soonerprices since I find no reason to respond to the other guy.

    You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

    Will your idle talk reduce men to silence? Will no one rebuke you when you mock? ... When you mock God, shouldn't someone make you ashamed?

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

    Fools mock at making amends for sin, but goodwill is found among the upright. ... Fools mock at the guilt offering, but the upright enjoy acceptance.

    Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts

    So am i going to hell?

    soonerprices

  • soonerdm said...

    Does it make your heart joyous to know that I will not be joining you in Heaven?

    LOLz

    OUpinkKitty

  • soonerdm said...

    Does it make your heart joyous to know that I will not be joining you in Heaven?

    Who said he was going to heaven?

    soonerprices

  • soonerdm said...

    Does it make your heart joyous to know that I will not be joining you in Heaven?

    You may find this hard to believe, but I cannot wish that upon anyone. Neither does God as He says, "He is not willing for any to perish but for all to come to the saving knowledge of the truth."

    The fact of the matter is that each of us has the right and privilage to choose for himself. God respects that right and so must I. I have a brother that was a drug dealer and was murdered by one of his drug buddies. I spoke to him in depth about the Lord just a few weeks before he was killed. Since he was 30 and I was only 22 I was amazed that he would even listen and ask questions. I know it was God's divine appointment for him to come live with me for a couple of months prior to his untimely death, to give him every opportunity to choose salvation. He never said anything to me about doing so, but I could see that he was changed after hearing the truth.

    I can only hope. Many times I have cried over this.

    Even though I do not know you from Adam, I can say at this very moment I shed tears for you ! Most people here take me all wrong. I do not wish to condemn anyone. I speak against our common sinful nature for the purpose and hope of helping anyone who can receive it.

    Sure, many sins are fun but they are deceitful because in the end they kill us. It does not matter if one could have lived his entire life in a morally superior way to the majority of men, the fact that he was born a sinner is his undoing. One sin or million sins does not matter. God says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. But He also says he has paid the price with His own blood for the redemption of any and all who will accept it.

    Jesus is the King of peace. He personally paid the price to restore peace between all men and God as well as peace among all men. The former is possible now while the latter peace only in measure, for now.

    So no, soonerdm I am grieved at anyone who rejects this offer of peace. I hope and pray that you and all who read these words of mine will realize what I say here are actual words of life.

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    soonerman504

  • soonerman504 said...

    You may find this hard to believe, but I cannot wish that upon anyone. Neither does God as He says, "He is not willing for any to perish but for all to come to the saving knowledge of the truth."

    The fact of the matter is that each of us has the right and privilage to choose for himself. God respects that right and so must I. I have a brother that was a drug dealer and was murdered by one of his drug buddies. I spoke to him in depth about the Lord just a few weeks before he was killed. Since he was 30 and I was only 22 I was amazed that he would even listen and ask questions. I know it was God's divine appointment for him to come live with me for a couple of months prior to his untimely death, to give him every opportunity to choose salvation. He never said anything to me about doing so, but I could see that he was changed after hearing the truth.

    I can only hope. Many times I have cried over this.

    Even though I do not know you from Adam, I can say at this very moment I shed tears for you ! Most people here take me all wrong. I do not wish to condemn anyone. I speak against our common sinful nature for the purpose and hope of helping anyone who can receive it.

    Sure, many sins are fun but they are deceitful because in the end they kill us. It does not matter if one could have lived his entire life in a morally superior way to the majority of men, the fact that he was born a sinner is his undoing. One sin or million sins does not matter. God says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. But He also says he has paid the price with His own blood for the redemption of any and all who will accept it.

    Jesus is the King of peace. He personally paid the price to restore peace between all men and God as well as peace among all men. The former is possible now while the latter peace only in measure, for now.

    So no, soonerdm I am grieved at anyone who rejects this offer of peace. I hope and pray that you and all who read these words of mine will realize what I say here are actual words of life.

    You are sitting at your computer crying? I call BS.

    soonerprices

  • soonerprices said...

    So am i going to hell?

    You know the scriptures. That is for you to decide. It is time for you to choose a side because God is not pleased with a poluted stream.

    I believe many Christians are saved but will be lamenting in that day for their loss for having disgraced the one who bought them.

    I know very well that you know very well, the things that I am talking about.

    Choose you this day whom you will serve. many think they serve only themselves but the word is clear that there are only two masters and no man is his own.

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    soonerman504

  • soonerprices said...

    You are sitting at your computer crying? I call BS.

    I can see why you are no longer in the ministry.

    If you knew the TRUTH it would set you free. A spiritual man is one who has died to self. As such his mind, will and emotions are given up to God. God's Spirit moves within His children so that one can laugh, cry, sing, rebuke, help, listen, speak or what ever is appropriate as determined by the Lord at any given moment.

    A man who cannot do any of these things when ever the Lord moves him to do so, is one who has a closed spirit. This is an indication that such a one is still very full of himself and not the Lord.

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • soonerman504 said...

    Just a few scriptures for you, soonerprices since I find no reason to respond to the other guy.

    You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

    Will your idle talk reduce men to silence? Will no one rebuke you when you mock? ... When you mock God, shouldn't someone make you ashamed?

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!

    Fools mock at making amends for sin, but goodwill is found among the upright. ... Fools mock at the guilt offering, but the upright enjoy acceptance.

    Know this first of all, that in the last days mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts

    You must be a riot at parties. Ever seen the Debbie Downer sketch on SNL?

    OU_dup

  • OUDodger said...

    You must be a riot at parties. Ever seen the Debbie Downer sketch on SNL?

    Sorry, I don't watch SNL . Haven't in many years anyway. I don't need cheap external fixes like that. I have a joy and a peace beyond what the world can offer.

    Besides, I have a serious mission considering the eternal consequences, wouldn't you agree ? I have a good sense of humor. I used to be quite the clown. Being older now I have experienced the loss of too many friends and family to not be concerned about these things any longer.

    What's more, there are riches in Christ which I could not begin to cause you to understand so that even when being insulted I am filled with glory. Just as it is written, "If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because
    the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you."

    I'd rather appeal to people based upon the great things we gain in Christ rather than to focus on the sin and forgiveness aspect but that is even less effective because no one can believe. It's much easier to believe that we are sinners and that Christ has offered redemption than it is to convince someone that it is better to give than to receive or that you are blessed when you are insulted for Christ. It is impossible for someone to believe that you can have joy and peace and satisfaction apart from personally favorable external circumstances. These are facts but there is no way to convince anyone short of perhaps their seeing these things in a healthy Christian.

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    Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks

    soonerman504

  • soonerman504 said...

    Sorry, I don't watch SNL . Haven't in many years anyway. I don't need cheap external fixes like that. I have a joy and a peace beyond what the world can offer.

    Besides, I have a serious mission considering the eternal consequences, wouldn't you agree ? I have a good sense of humor. I used to be quite the clown. Being older now I have experienced the loss of too many friends and family to not be concerned about these things any longer.

    What's more, there are riches in Christ which I could not begin to cause you to understand so that even when being insulted I am filled with glory. Just as it is written, "If you are insulted for the name of Christ, you are blessed, because the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you."

    I'd rather appeal to people based upon the great things we gain in Christ rather than to focus on the sin and forgiveness aspect but that is even less effective because no one can believe. It's much easier to believe that we are sinners and that Christ has offered redemption than it is to convince someone that it is better to give than to receive or that you are blessed when you are insulted for Christ. It is impossible for someone to believe that you can have joy and peace and satisfaction apart from personally favorable external circumstances. These are facts but there is no way to convince anyone short of perhaps their seeing these things in a healthy Christian.

    So, rather than get that "cheap external fix" we should just fear God and have no fun...except of course for those OU games you no doubt watch each and every Saturday...

    OU_dup

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