O'Connell's Off Topic

Beyond and back is a great series we like as well...its actually on the Bio channel but it is interesting how people from all over the world with different backgrounds have similar experiences. Also there have been quite a few atheists that have been changed after their experience and some have gone on to become pastors......

well soonerveebs by all means I will by god answer your post.

What image is that show me an image of god. YOU? what an arrogant thing to believe that humans above all things are worthy to say they and only they were created in the image of a god. right

So how do you dismiss the early sapien skulls and skeletol remains? Oh yeah you have the bible as your science book.

I enjoy debating persons that actually KNOW what they believe but you just believe it with out actual knowledge.

Just because a species evolves from another doesn't mean that the earlier species dies out. Sharks of today all evolved from a common species and there are still sharks.

You are bigger and taller than men 200 years ago and that is evolution.

Go ahead and believe what you want, base it on the bible that has so many logical falsehoods it is laughable that even one person believes it. There is not one eye witness account of any of jesus' or his diciples actions or interactions it was all cobbled together by 10th century priests. Even the 4 gospels were written decades or centuries after the facts. Romans who kept great records about court proceedings have very little record of anything that happened to a jesus and his followers. There is not one account of the resurrection outside the bible's account. It is all hersey passed on by word of mouth. And yet there you are believeing it as 100% correct.

Only sheep need a shepard so go ahead and bow to superstition and ceremony and be blind in the face of facts.

Evolution has been proven over and over, but peopel like you who have a need for the bible to be true just ignore the science and proof and cling to your ignorance. I am not threatened by these posts but apalled by the group ignorance being displayed.

Thank you for this post. Tyresooner, its called Faith. Jesus, to christians, is not a make believe friend. The whole foundation of Christianity is faith in Jesus. Jesus will not make his presence obvious. You must choose to believe. You do not choose to believe and I respect that. You came here looking for an argument. I choose not to click on post that don't interest me. You also don't have to click on posts that don't interest you. It's called freedom. Nobody made you click on this post, now stop being offended.

People have died very grusome deaths for many reasons throughout history that doesn't make what they died for any more real. Mass belief has never been a true indication of truth. The earth the center of the universe was universally believed and yet was false, so many atrocities in the name of god and jesus and intolerance. They all have their roots in religion of some kind.

Your argument isn't compelling.

If evolution is a proven fact then why is it referred to as a theory?Can you please show everyone all the transitional species in the fossil record that will prove evolution is true without a shadow of a doubt? There should millions of transitional species in the fossil record if it's true but they're still looking for those.I wonder why ? I don't have enough faith to be an atheist because it requires much more faith than believing in God.Do you really believe that the universe created its self? That's like believing a car can build its self or pouring a box of alphabet cereal on the sand and the encyclopedia be perfectly written on the sand.That's not very logical.Everything we know around us was made by someone or something and it's not logical to believe that it wasn't.You've made a choice and it's that you don't want to believe no matter how much evidence there is for believing in God.You want to be your own god.The devil made that same choice and was removed from heaven because of it.Don't continue to make that same mistake and be eternally lost.

They still refer to Gravity as a Theory as in The Theory of Gravity. Theory of Relativity is still refered to as a theory even tho it is beyond a doubt true. so your argument holds no water.

True scientists do not refer to it a The Theory of Evolution. In papers and research it is refered to as Evolution. Only laymen refer to it as still a theory because that is the slang term for it.

The Big bang Theory is still a Theory only because it cannot be tested, I hope I do not have to explain why, but in the science community a theory no matter how widely accepted as fact cannot be thought of anything but a theory until it is tested in a lab.

So there are many "theories" that are still refered to as theories even tho they are true and Evolution is one of these.

If you are truly interested in learning this then I will send you to some websites that explain this further, but I suspect you are just regurgitating something your heard on the 700 club channle.

Critics also state that evolution is not a fact.[35] In science, a fact is a verified empirical observation; in colloquial contexts, however, a fact can simply refer to anything for which there is overwhelming evidence. For example, in common usage theories such as "the Earth revolves around the Sun" and "objects fall due to gravity" may be referred to as "facts", even though they are purely theoretical. From a scientific standpoint, therefore, evolution may be called a "fact" for the same reason that gravity can: under the scientific definition, evolution is an observable process that occurs whenever a population of organisms genetically changes over time. Under the colloquial definition, the theory of evolution can also be called a fact, referring to this theory's well-established nature. Thus, evolution is widely considered both a theory and a fact by scientists.[36][37][38]

It is your misunderstanding of what is a theory that keeps you in the dark about truth.

Not all evolution has to do with one species evolving and another dying out. Transmutions are the reason.

Also fossils have only been activly searched for for about 150 years and not all fossils have been located in that time frame unlike the lack of evidence concerning the bible or jesus' life that happened 2000 years ago. Comparing the amout of evidence towards confriming Evolution in just 150 years against the evidence confirming jesus or the bible over 2000 years then the record and evidence supporting evolution is 1000000000000 times more convincing that that concerning the bible.

So what your saying is that we can't see gravity but we can see the effects of gravity so we know that it's true.So my point and the biblical point of view is that we can't see God but by the creation we know that he exists.It's kind of like a theory.

that absurd!! Please you cant be serious . You really don't even want to examine what you believe you just want it to be true.pathetic!!

I thought you truly wanted to examine your 'faith" but you don't you are just determined to value blind faith as a virtue.

I am truly sad for you and your chosen ignorance.

That whole thing was to answer why it is a theory and THAT is what you got out of it. WOW. Just because the body heals itself and you don't understand how you say AHHH MIRICLE it MUST BE GOD. That is the same as cave men seeing the sun rise and not understanding how the solar system works and believing the SUN is a god.

I shake my head at your ignorance have a good life and truly live the saying " ignorance is bliss"

Tyree,

You really should let it go, you will never dissuade any of these religious zealots from their belief that their god is the reason we are here today. It is how they were raised and it is very scary for them to consider the alternative. After all, religion was invented in the dark ages to explain what at the time was unexplainable. That and as a way to take advantage of the sick and the ignorant.

This thread represents a growing problem with this site. I have followed this site from Scout to ESPN to 247 and have been a member for at least 7 years but the tolerance for allowing religious and political posts has grown and is unacceptable.

I have been a fan of OU football for 35 years, graduated from OU and have been a season ticket holder for 13 years but I do not subscribe to the religious and political beliefs of what is too often posted on this board. Namely because I do not live in a bubble.

The fact that this thread has gone for 4 pages is representative of the problem.

As for those of you that argue that Tyree "should not click on this thread". I say thanks to Tyree for voicing his objection. If not for people like him, we could all look forward to a full page of "He has Risen" threads every Easter.

Take your baloney to church and for those of you that feel the need to espouse your uninformed political opinions, save it for like-minded friends and acquaintances.

I know they have found fossils but my question is show me the transitional species in the fossil record.You still haven't done that yet.It requires a lot of faith to continue to believe in macro-evolution.When they find those transitional fossils you will have a legitimate argument.Usually when people respond by name calling they feel challenged and you sir aren't equipped with enough knowledge of what your trying to prove because your belief has know real evidence.The case for macro-evolution rests on scientists finding those transitional forms.If they can't and so far they haven't been able too then what you believe is just another religious fable.Just like you said earlier about the belief that the Earth was believed to be the center of the solar system or universe and was proven to be wrong,well the same thing can be said about evolution if the transitional species aren't found in the fossil record.I've enjoyed discussing this but I'm finished on this subject and I'm ready to go back to football.

Actually.....gravity is a law

Poor job by Admin letting this go on for 4 pages. If the OP had posted a thread about a Muslim holiday it would have been removed immediately as this one should have. Just because the majority of readers are Christians doesn't mean this is the proper forum.