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Ron Paul wins the 2011 CPAC straw poll...

  • again! 2 years in a row. If you haven't done your research on potential candidates for 2012, do so without getting your information from the mainstream media. Find out about Ron Paul yourself. His voting record throughout his tenure has been the most consistent, most conservative, and more importantly always CONSTITUTIONAL. Fox news is already writing off Dr. Paul by trumpeting Romney coming in 2nd in the poll. Yes, Mitt Romney, the man whose Massachusetts universal healthcare plan is going bankrupt, is being backed by the "conservative" network Fox news...again. When will we learn, people? It's not about Ds and Rs, but principles and policies.

  • I'm afraid that Ron Paul isn't "right" enough to be considered a threat to an Obama repeat. Unfortunately I don't think most right-wing voters are ready to rethink some of Bush's policies. Whereas Ron Paul voted "No" on Iraq to begin with, I think a significant amount of republicans would still vote "Yes" today.

  • soonermaverick said... (original post)

    I'm afraid that Ron Paul isn't "right" enough to be considered a threat to an Obama repeat. Unfortunately I don't think most right-wing voters are ready to rethink some of Bush's policies. Whereas Ron Paul voted "No" on Iraq to begin with, I think a significant amount of republicans would still vote "Yes" today.

    What's ironic is that preemptive war was never a "right" ideology. The neo-cons (former dems that became repubs) say it is, and the republican party was hijacked by them back in the 80s under President Reagan. Yet since Reagan was revered as the greatest conservative President (ideologically) in some time, republican voters were snookered into believing that all of the repubs during his administration were true conservatives, which Bush 1 proved to be false and was the reason why Ron Paul ran for President as an Independent in 1988. Dr. Paul knew then, and now some 20 years later people are beginning to see the forest for the trees as well.

    Maybe most repubs (like Ann Coulter) will continue to disagree with Ron Paul's non-intervention foreign policy, but at the very least they have to admit that the military industrial complex is too expensive with the status quo, and think about backing him instead of another fiscally irresponsible candidate. All they have to do is go through the vetting process and look at each candidate's legislative records. Ron Paul is the only strict Constitutionalist. Constitution! No where in the Constitution is preemptive war mentioned.

    People need to take a step back and look at the root cause of our country's problems, and come to terms with why they really occurred, because they didn't just begin with the election of Obama.

    To sum up today's average voter, I'll leave you with this video...

  • soonermaverick said... (original post)

    I'm afraid that Ron Paul isn't "right" enough to be considered a threat to an Obama repeat. Unfortunately I don't think most right-wing voters are ready to rethink some of Bush's policies. Whereas Ron Paul voted "No" on Iraq to begin with, I think a significant amount of republicans would still vote "Yes" today.


    Hard to say really, but I think the emergence of the tea party indicates a shift from the mainstream republican ideologies. You can count me as one of those who used to just follow lock step with republicans but no more.

    I think the majority of registered repubs. used to accept anything coming from the party thinking that as long as it was the opposite of the democrats it was the right policy.

    In light of our dire financial crises I think there are many more Americans like me who had their eyes opened to the fact that politics as usual can no longer be accepted.

    The problem is, the mainstream media hold’s the keys to the dissemination of news and they simply cater to the Dems and then the Repubs.

    The various news sources via the internet have served to lessen the impact of mainstream news but it is still heavily skewed and however unjust, still influences the populace majority.

    If the whole of the American people could be exposed to unbiased and objective news, there would be a chance but as it is , all who think a Ron Paul would be great for the Nation won’t vote for him thinking it a wasted vote. How do you overcome this ?

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  • soonerman504 said... (original post)

    If the whole of the American people could be exposed to unbiased and objective news, there would be a chance but as it is , all who think a Ron Paul would be great for the Nation won’t vote for him thinking it a wasted vote. How do you overcome this ?

    Clearly more prayer is the only answer!

  • pustule said... (original post)

    Clearly more prayer is the only answer!

    Amen to that brother. While we know that the only holy and righteous government can only be achieved by the Lord HImself, we must fight against the powerful, spiritual forces of wickedness behind the scenes in the mean time. Ungodly men are not aware of this battle, and go on with no realization that they are ensnared by the enemy being conrolled by him to accomplish his will on earth.

    This is one of the reasons in the model prayer we are told to pray, "His kingdom come, His will be done on earth as it is in heaven".

    Few believers realize their own vital role on issuing in the return of Christ in this manner along with the manifestation of His kingdom.

    Right now His kingdom is realized WITHIN the believers waiting till the fulness of the gentiles is accomplished and the bride made ready to be joined with Him in ruling with Him over the nations.

    That will be the fulfillment of Daniel's prophecy of the large stone (Christ) that will crush and subdue all the nations and their governments. That is when Christ and His saints will rule for a thousand years in righteousness ! Amen .

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  • CPAC is a joke. Paul only won the straw poll because his people registered more supporters for the conference. Everyone knew going in that he would win. I'm not saying I dislike Paul, but you can't read into these things.

    As it stands right now there are about 12 people considering a GOP run, but only 3 or 4 that could be called viable candidates. Letting this many non-viable candidates hang around only creates the perception that Republicans have no leadership and no clear path (which we don't). IMO the party needs to separate itself from the likes of Sarah Palin, John McCain, etc.

    IMO the party has allowed the media to create the perception that the party is run by the religious right. You know its bad when you have media members seeking the opinions of Franklin Graham. This perception needs to change.

    People can dog Romney for his healthcare plan in Mass, but being a Rep in Mass means you'll be making some concessions. Romney isn't my first choice, but is a far better choice than Palin, Barbour, Jindal, Thompson, etc. I would rather the party go the direction of a Newt Gingrich type.

  • TIMB0B said... (original post)

    I love the Republican strategy of in hindsight we dont agree with what they did so we'll call them Democrats. Its straight up lies. And you're going to hell for lying.

    Well, that may be the NEO-CON republican strategy so they can hope to get reelected, but Ron Paul has called out BOTH repubs and dems on their big government policies since at least the late 80s. As I said, it's not about Ds and Rs where they've practically been one and the same the last few decades. It's about each congressman's principles and policies.

  • TIMB0B said... (original post)

    Well, that may be the NEO-CON republican strategy so they can hope to get reelected, but Ron Paul has called out BOTH repubs and dems on their big government policies since at least the late 80s. As I said, it's not about Ds and Rs where they've practically been one and the same the last few decades. It's about each congressman's principles and policies.

    I wonder though if it there's not still a lot of true blood repubs, but that they have become corrupted by the system so that they compromise principles for votes making them appear more like Dems.

    Just a thought, but in any case it's still repulsive.

    All this makes me think the two party system itself lends itself to corruption and politicking. I don't know about scraping it all together but that would have to be better than what we have now. I hate all the political rhetoric and positioning and what seems like endless campaigning and polling for re-election instead of getting down to the serious business at hand.

    Obama has to be the epitome of today's politician in that you can never take him at face value. He never shows his hand completely, and more often than not is positioning, leveraging and flat out deceiving . He always seems to be saying much but meaning little. I simply cannot stand to listen to him. With all the effort I can muster, usually 15 minutes and that’s it before I have to go barf.

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  • paul has no chance....
    the crooked party leaders won't back him...
    the media will ignore him....
    and we'll be forced to decide between 2 losers like always....
    nothing changes....crooked politics as usual...

  • If Paul was about 30 years younger and had Romney's looks, then he might be electable. The repubs better hope they can come up with better candidates than the ones that led the poll.

    They need to somehow get Mitch Daniels and Paul Ryan on the ticket. Unfortunately, both are Big 10 area guys, but they have it going on.

  • The repubs are definitely taking their sweet time hyping someone. The Obama hype machine started what a solid 3 years before the '08 elections? They need to hurry up and find a viable candidate that can start campaigning already. Probly won't matter, as it is now, I don't see how Obama can lose. Could that be a deterrence for potential candidates? Why risk losing in 2012 when they can jockey for a 2016 run?

  • soonermaverick said... (original post)

    The repubs are definitely taking their sweet time hyping someone. The Obama hype machine started what a solid 3 years before the '08 elections? They need to hurry up and find a viable candidate that can start campaigning already. Probly won't matter, as it is now, I don't see how Obama can lose. Could that be a deterrence for potential candidates? Why risk losing in 2012 when they can jockey for a 2016 run?

    It wasn't long ago most analysts were saying they don't see how Obama could win even talking him up as a martyr for his agenda. The problem though, as you pointed out is galvanizing the conservatives, repubs and tea party people together to support one single candidate. If they cannot agree and some independent pulls enough votes Obama can't lose.

    There's still time as a lot can happen in 2 years but it would be nice to see someone jump out there that people can all rally behind.

    I don't see any real deterrent for candidates although 2 younger viable choices do appear to be holding off for 2016 which are Rubio and Christie.

    I think Christie could probably win it in 12 but he doesn't think he's ready for that and that is a respectable stance. There was specualtion he might go for a VP position however which could be a big plus for someone else like Romney.

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  • soonerman504 said... (original post)

    The problem though, as you pointed out is galvanizing the conservatives, repubs and tea party people together to support one single candidate. If they cannot agree and some independent pulls enough votes Obama can't lose.

    They need to run their platform on the Constitution. Even if their social policies aren't in line with each others, the Constitution is for small government and states' rights, which they should all agree with.

  • My favorite potential candidates are Paul, Romney, Huckabee, and Jindal.

    Though I haven't heard much about Jindal in a while.

  • jbaker said... (original post)

    My favorite potential candidates are Paul, Romney, Huckabee, and Jindal.

    Though I haven't heard much about Jindal in a while.

    I was wondering about Jindal as well. I remember people kind of laughing him off after he gave a rebuttal speach to Obama's a couple of years ago, but nobody was laughing when Jindal rebuffed the President over his poor handling of the oil spill crises. Not that I needed it, but it really galvanized for me the fact that Obama's real skill is in speaking, not in real world problem analysis and practical solving skills. Where Jindal may not be the professiional speaker, he does have the mojo to get er done, eh? I'd take a leader who can get things done over a blow hard talk-alot any day.

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  • TIMB0B said... (original post)

    CPAC is a joke. Paul only won the straw poll because his people registered more supporters for the conference. Everyone knew going in that he would win. I'm not saying I dislike Paul, but you can't read into these things.

    As it stands right now there are about 12 people considering a GOP run, but only 3 or 4 that could be called viable candidates. Letting this many non-viable candidates hang around only creates the perception that Republicans have no leadership and no clear path (which we don't). IMO the party needs to separate itself from the likes of Sarah Palin, John McCain, etc.

    IMO the party has allowed the media to create the perception that the party is run by the religious right. You know its bad when you have media members seeking the opinions of Franklin Graham. This perception needs to change.

    People can dog Romney for his healthcare plan in Mass, but being a Rep in Mass means you'll be making some concessions. Romney isn't my first choice, but is a far better choice than Palin, Barbour, Jindal, Thompson, etc. I would rather the party go the direction of a Newt Gingrich type.

    I agree with this.

  • TIMB0B said... (original post)

    I love the Republican strategy of in hindsight we dont agree with what they did so we'll call them Democrats. Its straight up lies. And you're going to hell for lying.

    Ron Paul in 2003 was going after the neo-cons, basically calling them liberals.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4156174553630131591#